Retire Duncan, Trade Parker, Start Rebuilding

[Strike]

This team isn't done. Not sure why everybody is so anxious to turn into the 1990s Boston Celtics.

You have one more legit run next year with Tiago implemented from the start. Anderson/Green/Blair/Neal coming back...

They don't have a franchise player anymore but this team is still good for 50-55 wins next year and a chance at a deep playoff run.

Who knows what the draft will bring?

You pray to God somebody takes RJ/Bonner of our hands and see what you have at training camp.

I doubt Timmy wants to go chase rings with Miami. Manu/Parker are locked up for a couple more seasons.

You ride it the out til the wheels fall off.

Other than the bold, I'm okay. But nobody not named RC Buford is gonna be dumb enough to take Jefferson or Bonner.

[Mrlunt925]

I just feel like with parker, we're gonna be a perenial 8 seed/barely in the playoffs team, and what's the point really? I'd rather use parker to completely start rebuilding, as sad as it is since he has done so much for us. It all depends on the offseason really, and there's still the lockout. Without some major trades, I feel like we just can't win a 'chip anymore.

I'd much rather go OKC style and pick up some sick young pieces (we're not stumbling on a KD, but you know what I mean) and try to be contenders in 3 - 4 years instead of another couple years of meritocracy.

I guess I always figured any of the Big 3 would be Spurs for life. Plus in my mind Parker could still lead this team. He's always been behind Duncan, then Ginobili stepped up huge this year. But that's just speculation by me.

Going OKC style is definitely a possible route, but it's hard to read draft classes. The Spurs have had some luck when it counts in the draft though. I guess if a deal is sweet enough it could happen. But otherwise I feel they still have some newer guys that could still help rebuild with out completely tearing down everything. Who knows though. This is gonna be a of a long offseason.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Tim Duncan is not ing finished, what the is wrong with you people?

It's like once the playoffs started, that most of you expected him to be throwing up 25 and 15 with ease just by Pop giving him extra minutes....who the thought this was realistic?

Duncan is what he is. A defensive bigman with the ability to score in slight spurts. He is slow on the fast break, but can hold his own. If Duncan played next to a legit bigman, I am not saying we win championships but he certainly does not look so overwhelmed.

He was our sole legit post option against a team that is built to pound it inside.

I can't stand this Duncan retire bull , you guys are ing out of your minds.

If he wants to resign for a reasonable veteran amount after this current contract expires, I would practically be cheering for it while reading the news on my laptop.

Spurfan awaiting Duncan to retire is the biggest ing load of I've ever read on this entire forum since I been posting here.

[Mugen]

Other than the bold, I'm okay. But nobody not named RC Buford is gonna be dumb enough to take Jefferson or Bonner.

GMs have done dumber things. It's close to impossible to dealing RJ but you don't worry about equal value. You just find any willing suitor and pull the trigger.

As long as David Kahn is still around, there is a GM dumb enough to do it.

[Bruno]

What would you rather lol Bonner as your main player while you rebuild? Hill? Splitter? RJ?

If you are rebuilding the main goal is to be as bad as possible to get the best draft pick possible.

A logic rebuilding plan would be:
- Ducnan retiring.
- Manu and Tony traded for picks and/or young players.
- Tanking 2011-2012.
- Tanking 2012-2013.
- Tanking 2013-2014.

In 2014, Spurs should have some capspace to sign some FAs and a young core.

[Spurtacus]

Stay:
Duncan
Ginobili
Parker
Hill
Neal
Blair
Splitter

Go:
Bonner
Jefferson
McDyess

[Barfunk]

This team isn't done. Not sure why everybody is so anxious to turn into the 1990s Boston Celtics.

You have one more legit run next year with Tiago implemented from the start. Anderson/Green/Blair/Neal coming back...

They don't have a franchise player anymore but this team is still good for 50-55 wins next year and a chance at a deep playoff run.

Who knows what the draft will bring?

You pray to God somebody takes RJ/Bonner of our hands and see what you have at training camp.

I doubt Timmy wants to go chase rings with Miami. Manu/Parker are locked up for a couple more seasons.

You ride it the out til the wheels fall off.

Duncan, Manu and Parker should stay. So should Hill and Neal. Id trade/ can everyone else.

I'd keep Splitter as well.

[spursbird]

Go:
Bonner
Jefferson
McDyess

Great idea. So who want those ?

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

i mean like the above poster said, they just cant be our number 1 options, so we need to build around tiago i know alot of ppl are going to give me for saying that but pp gave me when i said tiago is a starter, and im telling you if we can climb in the draft with a trade then thats what we need to do.

james anderson in my opinion is amazing and plays incredible defense why he didnt play who knows but that ing drunk called our coach,

tiago/james anderson/ ryan richards and then lets go from there let manu and duncan stay i say we get a young strong power forward for tony while we still can the guy plays over seas too much and then plays like for S.A and act like an arrogant asshole around here.

when tony wasnt here george hill was flourishing but i agree hes made some bad mental errors this series and i cant believe he didnt really show up. peter holt needs to give pop some and this city needs to start questioning his bull drunk rotations

[Josepatches_]

Duncan isn't retiring and Parker isn't going anywhere.

So sadly I think we are ed next year too.We'll made the playoffs with the 4th/5th seed but we'll have a first round exit again.Second round at best.We´ll see the same thread next year.Book it

[DesignatedT]

So sadly I think we are ed next year too.We'll made the playoffs with the 4th/5th seed but we'll have a first round exit again.Second round at best.We´ll see the same thread next year.Book it

Most teams would love to be a 4th seed. It's not like Tony being traded or Duncan retiring all of a sudden makes us a le contender again

Are closest thing to a le is the big 3 and it will continue to be that until they retire. The odds go down every year but that's the truth.

[ZB 512]

Duncan still has one year left on his contract...i bet ya'll just tweak the roster and try your best again next year and then start the rebuild process the following season when Duncan's contract is off your books

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

yeah but while were acting like its a no brainer that Rj/bonner get traded pop is off his rocker and could be thinking Matt bonner as a starter next season for all we know!!!

if you think about it matt bonner has been given more and more opportunity every year

[Crookshanks]

Seriously, I think all the Eva/Erin crap really messed Tony up this season. He seemed to lack focus. He's still a great player, and I hope he can get his head straightened up during the summer.

Spurs need some guys who can be counted on every game, not these guys like Bonner and Jefferson, and even Hill to some extent, who have a good game every week or so but who can never deliver when they're really needed.

[MaNu4Tres]

The window is sealed shut.

Sad day.. Really

[Spurtacus]

Great idea. So who want those ?

Slap a first round pick to one or two of them and someone might bite.

[peskypesky]

It doesn't even matter if they can get a small forward because the Big 3 aren't the Big 3 anymore. For the first time in 22 years, the Spurs do not have a legit franchise player.

so true. so sad.

[MannyIsGod]

Dude....you really think Manu needs to retire now?

No - I think he can be a good role player off the bench. I shouldn't have said he should retire. Definitely not someone you build around though. I'd much rather build around Parker.

[PublicOption]

the league wants LA and Okie City to play in the WCF.......so they got rid of us.

[MaNu4Tres]

BTW Here's what I'd do.

I have a feeling the Spurs will try to have one more go around with this nucleus.

I'd trade up to McDyess' contract, Blair and a 1st rounder to get Jefferson out of town. Preferably for a big guy. Chris Kaman comes to mind right off the bat. (To those asking why trade Blair: Blair's contract will be up in 2 years anyway; his salary value will go up 500-600%. Meaning it's highly doubtful Spurs would consider resigning an undersized big at that price anyway. Therefore trading him now should be easy. Especially if they are rebuilding, which most likely will be the case. Therefore sweetening a RJ deal with Blair has to be considered now.)

Then I'd explore deals involving Bonner. (Unfortunately we all know this isn't realistic.)

I'd then look to sign Battier on the cheap and let the winner out of the Green, Anderson, Butler pool to back him up next year.

[rayray2k8]

Depends on who the Spurs get, but I'll hold off on the "trade parker" threads.

[MannyIsGod]

I definitely want to deal Blair.

[TJastal]

The back-court is not the problem. I saw the future in Tiago and Pop knows it too. He's going to be good.Tony, Manu and Tiago will compliment each other well.

Tim's role needs to be like David's was. He's more than useful, the mins gotta be limited in the same vein as DROB.

Gotta get some-one for RJ when he's shrivelling up and we need a big in the Darrell Arthur mold. Seriously, the frontline has some glaring weaknesses. More-so when POP relies on a stretch 4 such as Matt Bonner.

"The future" needed to be "the present". Splitter will be good as soon as Holt fires Poppazit and gets a coach who will actually use him over a 3pt chucking ginger boy

[ynh]

I'm not sure many of you have an idea of how "easy" rebuilding is. Unless you are transitioning from one top 5-10 player to another or you still have a top 5 player to build around (see what you guys did between championships) it can take years. You are not going to get big name free agents.. so you're left to the draft. You can suck ass as bad as you think you can and you will still have 6 teams worse than you. There are bad teams.. bad. Unless you are tanking in the teens as far as wins and pick to do it on a year where there is a sure fire hall of famer (example not this year) and don't get ed by the lotto balls.. it takes a very long time.

Rebuilding is not fun.. unless you think watching bad basketball and racking up losses is fun.

[TJastal]

BTW Here's what I'd do.

I have a feeling the Spurs will try to have one more go around with this nucleus.

I'd trade up to McDyess' contract, Blair and a 1st rounder to get Jefferson out of town. Preferably for a big guy. Chris Kaman comes to mind right off the bat. (To those asking why trade Blair: Blair's contract will be up in 2 years anyway; his salary value will go up 500-600%. Meaning it's highly doubtful Spurs would consider resigning an undersized big at that price anyway. Therefore trading him now should be easy. Especially if they are rebuilding, which most likely will be the case. Therefore sweetening a RJ deal with Blair has to be considered now.)

Then I'd explore deals involving Bonner. (Unfortunately we all know this isn't realistic.)

I'd then look to sign Battier on the cheap and let the winner out of the Green, Anderson, Butler pool to back him up next year.

I thought you were all gung ho happy slappy about the Jefferson contract. Now you wanna dump the spurs' future (and all the time they've invested in Blair + 1st rounder) to get rid of it?