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    1. Acquire size. I would strongly consider trading TP to get a legit big, too. TP's game relies on speed to be affective. How much longer will he have elite speed? TP should be able to acquire a big that will take pressure off of TD.

    2. When TP is traded, give the keys to G Hill. Hill is not TP, but I've seen enough of him (as an outsider to Spur Nation) to know that he is serviceable and is ready for Pop to give him the keys.

    3. Start Splitter. Pop tripping. Didn't he immediately give the keys to TP (and Manu IIRC) and lived with his growing pains back in the day? Look how that turned out for TP. Splitter is a hustle player with size. I can't believe that Pop thought that Dice or Blair was a better option next to TD. Bigs take longer to develop. Pop not playing him this year will stunt his growth.

    4. Keep Bonner. Yeah, I said it. Bonner "sucks" because you guys had to rely upon him to bang, rebound, swat, etc. like a typical big. That's not his game. It is very valuable to have Bonner bring an opposing big out of the lane because of the threat of his 3pt shot. Keep him as a situational bench player.

    5. Start Choo Choo. You guys are rebuilding anyway. Might as well start Choo Choo and Hill together as a tandem. Ginobli has proven that he can be effective off of the bench and could bring some leadership to the 2nd unit. Besides, you guys need to be watching his minutes at this stage of his career.

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    Step one-blow it up
    Step two-get new coach and five new starters

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    I cant believe some people here still want Prince. Why not get a young, promising, better SF instead with less money? The Pistons would love to get rid of Prince and their fans keep shopping him.

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    trade Tim Duncan to Orlando give him a chance to win one more ring next to Howard!

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    trade Tim Duncan to Orlando give him a chance to win one more ring next to Howard!
    Depressing thought if the spurs shipped TD out, but it would allow for some new reconstruction to begin, and I have to admit to see Tim lift #5 might make it worth it.

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    The spurs are already rebuilt but under a new name: here comes the Thunder, with a GM able to make impactful signings, a young coach who isn't an ass yet, a young humble franchise player, and several energetic and tough teammates.

    Timmy & pop will come 'n say hi once in a while

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    I hate to say it, but I agree with Manny.

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    Carl landryand m pietrus would fit well on this team

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    what are the chances of the suns taking parker+bonner+blair+RJ for nash+gortat+childress? Eh, it would have to save them money, switch RJ for hill, how about that?

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    Anybody who thinks Duncan is done is a ing re . He just got done putting up 13 and 11 against a great defensive team with massive front line while his teammates failed to show up and his minutes were inexcplicably limited by his dumbass coach.

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    Is Deron Williams reachable for tony parker and richard jefferson ?

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    Anyone that thinks this team has anything left to contend really needs to take their head out of the sand. If you want to keep the Big 3 for nostalgic reasons then that is fine. All three have put in the work to earn that right. But don't kid yourself into thinking they can be anything they have been in the past. Once glance at the talented, up and coming teams in the league right now should be enough to convince anyone with any sort of objectivity.

    I lean more towards Bruno's approach than any other. I love the Big 3...but there is only one face of this franchise and that is Tim Duncan. He and he alone should be the only player that is worthy to be called untouchable through this process. If they are going to keep the Big 3 intact then I agree with the dump RJ crowd. If they are not then I like the patience approach better...as Manu and Parker will bring good picks and good young players. Those picks/players will have a couple of seasons to develop and then RJ's large expiring could be enticing to team looking for relief that is willing to give up a good player in order get it.

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    Explosion makes sense with an already screwed up/locked out season looming. The 3 still have something left in value so I can see the rationale for trading Tony and Manu. They would have value to some team. If we are going to rebuild then you keep RJ. The point in rebuilding is to lose games, right?

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    Spurs run is finished. The next team who has what the spurs had may not even be in the NBA. French soccer team of 98 were the team that possessed the kind of grace Spurs 2K1-2K9 had.

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    Best starting backcourt in the NBA. Think about that, folks. Think about what that means. Think about all the teams that aren't as good.

    Tim Duncan's defensive numbers. Look at them. Try to figure out how much of that comes from his incredible athletic plays and then figure out how many more years he can give you that.

    I know you guys are depressed, but don't be ing stupid. The Spurs have a championship core. They lost due to a hundred peripheral decisions along the way that in the end just added up and became too big to overcome.

    With every "Duncan is done" or "Spurs have no talent" post or "Pop did the best with these dregs" post, I'm more and more sure that what the Spurs need more than anything else is a coaching change.

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    I'd like Pop to make the biggest adjustment, and turn back the clock to the days were he was a freaking asshole when somebody ed up on defense. Sit them out, rip them a new asshole, etc etc etc... If the coach doesn't hold people accountable, we're just not going to change.
    THIS!!!! WTF happened to that Pop, the coach that ripped you a new asshole because you missed a defensive rotation?? The coach that wouldn't give you playing time unless you played D?? Where did that dude go?


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    I don't understand the impulse to put Manu back on the bench. Up until Pop decided to play him in an utterly meaningless game, where he suffered a freak injury, he was perfectly healthy and perfectly fresh for the postseason. The only way this makes any sense is if you decide that Parker/Anderson is a better starting lineup, and you only know that after you let them play together for a while.

    Duncan and Splitter do not play the same position. The absolute biggest mistake of this season was thinking that's the case. Duncan can play 12-15 feet from the basket and still be able to defend. He needs someone with length beside him.
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    Bonner can't be on the roster when next season starts. Pop will go back to that scrub ass who has no business being in our rotation, let alone the first big off the bench. It's the Finley principle - as long as he's around, Pop will trot him out there to get abused.

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    This team need BIG changes.We aren't going to win with the same core.

    It's time to rebuilt.It's over.TD & manu are old.TP is out of gas.I don't know if we have to trade all them.I'd prefer to see them retiring as a Spur.

    If we come back with the same core sure we'll make the playoffs but with zero chance to win.We only are wasting one more year.


    What do you want? To win or to be in the middle of the league.

    Tank next season and let's hope to find a new franchise player in the draft.We are going nowhere without him.

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    Best starting backcourt in the NBA.
    I'm not sure but none of them are dominant enough in the league.

    I'd prefer to have only one superstar like Wade .

    Anyway Manu will be one year older and he clearly will be another step down.Tony didn't look so good this year. He's young but he has a big mileage in his legs.Every year he seems to be worse in the spring.


    Now let's see if the play this summer.Then I'd trade them

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    Duncan is not going to retire. Just because he is not the TD of 5 years ago does not mean he is done as an NBA player. I don't even think by now he would want to leave SA. He will not ride the coattails of some other team looking for a 5th ring. Let him hang out and shoot 15-footers and bank shots, and get someone else inside to bang around on offense (Splitter).

    The most likely of the Big Three to be traded is definitely Parker.

    Bonner would be OK for his salary if used properly, but Pop can not help himself.

    The Spurs need some young guys who are about 6'7" and muscular, but then again don't we all!!

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    Tank and go for the #1 overall pick.

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    I don't think that this team will be a contender again in the Duncan era (they weren't one this season as well, despite the great RS record), but as long as Tim plays, they probably won't blow this team up and will stay compe ive enough to reach the playoffs.

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    What I read here more than anything is that everyone wants to contend for a le...but NO-ONE is willing to really change anything.

    FOUR years in a row should be enough to tell you that this is not going to work.

    #1) Pop needs to go. Time for a new coach, a new philosophy, new blood.

    #2) Tim needs to retire--or at the very least -re-structure his contract and accept a role
    as a reserve. I love Timmy to death but the wheels have fallen...in the second half
    when he had an open lane to the basket and tried to SOFTLY lay it up...missed and
    there wasn't even a foul called--said it all.

    3) Manu & TP need to also accept a reserve role and/or get traded for young athletic
    players that a NEW coach can mold into a tough athletic physical defensive unit.
    Here again...if there is any player that I love more than Timmy---it is Manu...but the
    only way I see these two worth keeping---is if they both renounce international play.
    It is their choice...you want to win another NBA le and invest ALL your energy to the
    SPURS...or do you want to give half allegiance to two teams and never win another '
    le? Their answer should be the deciding factor of keeping them or letting them go
    for fresh young talent.

    4) RJ, Bonner, Hill....need to be in' shipped anywhere for anything. Not kidding.
    A team with championship aspirations needs mentally tough warriors who will kill to
    win. All three of these idiots suck balls and always have --with an occasional bright
    spot.

    5) If any of these things aren't done...then please don't pretend that you want a le...
    it will just be repeating the same result for five years in a row.


    What the spurs are doing is the same as an inmate in prison who says he wants to be free...so he lobbies for better lighting, better food, better treatment,etc...

    when- what he SHOULD be doing is breaking down the ing walls and breaking his ass out to freedom.

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    Anyone that thinks this team has anything left to contend really needs to take their head out of the sand. If you want to keep the Big 3 for nostalgic reasons then that is fine. All three have put in the work to earn that right. But don't kid yourself into thinking they can be anything they have been in the past. Once glance at the talented, up and coming teams in the league right now should be enough to convince anyone with any sort of objectivity.

    I lean more towards Bruno's approach than any other. I love the Big 3...but there is only one face of this franchise and that is Tim Duncan. He and he alone should be the only player that is worthy to be called untouchable through this process. If they are going to keep the Big 3 intact then I agree with the dump RJ crowd. If they are not then I like the patience approach better...as Manu and Parker will bring good picks and good young players. Those picks/players will have a couple of seasons to develop and then RJ's large expiring could be enticing to team looking for relief that is willing to give up a good player in order get it.
    This.

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