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It used to be this that was all that was needed for them, but now I think the Spurs need allot more thne just one stopper as this team's core ages.
After this series Im more convinced that we need another Bruce Bowen in our core. Not only because of stopping one specific player, but becuase we need a guy who inspires defense.
After watching old experienced Shane Battier making stops, drawing fouls, and hitting clutch threes made me miss Bruce a lot.
It used to be this that was all that was needed for them, but now I think the Spurs need allot more thne just one stopper as this team's core ages.
You got to have a stopper, either on the perimeter or in the paint, you got to have a guy who can get his own shot and score on anyone, neither of which this team had, they had some excellent team chemistry early in the year, but when Tim went down this team lost confidence and it showed in how they lost games. They gave away 3 games in a weeks period through bad decisions, shoddy play and just playing like rookies. And for the most part the culprits were Tony, Tim and Manu.
A lineup of Battier, Splitter, and Duncan would be great. Not only that but they need to get some real big guys who can hustle defensively and show for it. I just don't want to see Bonner or Richard Jefferson out there anymore.
In order to be contenders for a ring, they will have to acquire two other teams' best players. We can shuffle the middle of the road guys around the league all day and that won't make a difference in the end. Just as Boston and LA weren't contenders without the acquisitions of star players, neither will we be.
Tell me one team that has won a ring by just moving around non-franchise players when they didn't already have a solid nucleus.
Unfortunately that means pissing off fans when you dump people like Tony and Hill. However those fans will cheer up if you win games.
I'll have to agree with you. People don't seem to see that the current Spurs era is at the end. Boston is almost at the end of theirs, as well as LA. Maybe not this season but the next few are going to be about the younger teams that have been lurking in the backgroung and gearing up for their championship runs while the older core teams battled it out through the past few years. Like OKC Grizzlies, Chicago, and Heat. It's just how these things work.
The sooner spurs start their rebuild the sooner they can get back on track. They could start now while they have some pieces to move to speed up the recovery, or they could just wait untill the main core retirees leaving them at the very bottom for years to come while they draft. I honestly could go either way, but I would much rather see the Spurs working on a jump-start into the future right now instead of watching the big 3 struggle as they get beat down by these younger teams.
Maybe with a key Trade Spurs can still compete, but that would have to be a trade involving something of value such as one of the big 3. Spurs are not going to land any kind of game changer, or difference maker player by just trading their fodder,
Last edited by Chomag; 04-30-2011 at 07:57 PM.
Does anyone believe Anderson can fill that role?
Battier is nowhere near the level of a Bruce Bowen.
Getting "another Bruce Bowen" is nearly impossible. Some people don't realize how great he was.
Yeah, Bruce Bowens grow on trees. I bet the Spurs can get one in the lottery. They should release everyone and tank.
Never said Bowen grew on trees, never. Just said about bringing someone to do the dirty work.
You did say the Spurs need another Bruce Bowen. There are currently zero Bruce Bowens in the league, so finding one will be tough. That's the point I was making.
We need bigger skilled position players. When they weren't abusing our bigs, they were posting up Hill with Battier, Allen, and Sam Young. I think we need to incorporate Butler, Green, and JA to play rotation minutes next year. The only rotation players I want to see under 6'6" are Parker and Neal.
Another Bruce Bowen type of player, gee
I wasn't being literal, so I'm unsure how your attempt to clarify changes anything. Bowen was a one of a kind player, and the Spurs have been trying to replace him for years. There's nobody in the league that can defend four positions at that kind of level. I'd love to find a replacement for him too but it's just not simple.
I've mentioned this a lot of times, but the only way you make up for the loss of Bowen's defense is by committee, getting several guys that all play above average defense and do it consistently. Guys like Splitter, Neal and Anderson can do that. I'd like to see if Butler or Green can do it. I'm not convinced that Blair or Hill can do it, and I'd like to see Bonner get some time covering small forwards to see if he can take advantage of his size and his quick feet.
We need players who are are tall and athletic and can create their own shot by that I mean can beat their man off the dribble. We only have two players that can easily create their own shot Parker and Manu we need a SF who can do the same.
Possibly, if given playing to see if he can develop the at ude needed.
I think most players have the ability, but the at ude needs to be there to play "D".
Not sure if serious
i said at the trade deadline they should have went after battier or tashaun prince, but they sat by and did NOTHING while putting faith in jefferson at the 3.
The only way we are going to get this type of player is through the draft because no high profile player will want to play for the spurs. Small market town and management will not spend the money.
There is real good potential with James Anderson if he stays healthy.
Not sure why people have so much problem when I bring this up. Bonner has good handles, quick feet, he's a good outside shooter and he's an energetic, smart defender. The biggest problem with him is that he's matched up against bigger, stronger guys with longer arms and more athletic ability. If Bonner's going to be overmatched at his position, I'd like it to happen when he's got two shot blockers behind him on one end and has a physical advantage on the other.Not sure if serious
If Bonner's two inches shorter with the exact same skillset, nobody would question having him as a small forward. How many more years of watching him fail as a power forward and center to Spurs fans need to see before reaching the conclusion that he might not actually be a power forward or center?
Anderson at the two would be terrific. If the spurs could get that wing from the bucks that would be awesome. I really liked watching him out on the perimeter defending teams. Whats his name Mboute.....chimichanga Luke whatsits. He'd be an ideal player to go after, but doubt they get him.
man i'm 5'11 and bonner probably couldn't stop me in the post. i know he can't stop me off the dribble. all he can do is hit the open 3. that's it and nothing more. he's an almost 7 foot steve kerr
Kenneth Faried from morehead state should slip in the draft, but he's a 6'8 rebounding machine that was the key to his team upsetting louisville this year in the tourney. not saying he's a franchise player, but we can switch him in between the 3 and 4 off the bench for more boards cuz we've been getting killed on the glass this year.
A great stopper would have been nice. Wins may have been more obtainable if we could get some damn stops.
When the team gives up 55 percent shooting and the coach says there's nothing wrong with the team's defense they've got problems a great stopper won't fix by himself.
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