http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3umjbu7
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4xp63qq
Essentially, pay Cleveland Hill to take on RJ's contract with their trade exception, Give Blair to Dorell Wright(Starting SF) and get a productive big with a long contract. (Biedrins or Varejao).
Realism of these is an issue, but we are giving up talent for better fits.
If they were going to offer that much I would much rather see them make a play on Roy Hibbert in a packaged deal. Much more upside and less injury prone. Spurs would probably have to eat TJ fords contract in that deal, but at least TJ produces more then RJ, and he would also be a decent back up PG.
I think it would still would be kind of a longshot to get them to bite on this though. Realisticaly, I don't know, but since we are talking about these things here
Last edited by Chomag; 04-30-2011 at 11:57 PM.
Hibbert?
Pacers made the playoffs and Hibbert is a key piece. And this year was the last year with heavy contracts (Dunleavy, Ford, Foster etc). You are 1-2 seasons too late for this.
Biedrins has 27/3 left and much more trade value than RJ. Warriors also doesnt have other bad contracts they would like to dump in a package. They can get much better deals than RJ+crap for Biedrins.
Jax has two years left, why the the Bobcats would trade him (and Henderson!) for a even longer contract?
Hedo got moved for other ty contracts, thats why i posted a list of players with ty contracts that run also at least (!) three years like RJs.
Thinking of Hibbert or a Biedrins swap is laughable
no way. don't bring in flopping raggedy ann. with both him and ginobli flopping hitting the floor on the regular, those guys are gonna hurt someone if not each other..
True, I know he was untouchable before but I have been watching him in the playoffs and they have been only playing him a bit over 20 minutes a game in the Chicago series. Maybe he has fallen out of favor? Then again maybe not, I don't know, just throwing it out there as a possibility.
IT would probebly take TP in a packaged deal to get it done anyway, so meh..
Well, I don't think there is a great trade out there for us with the pieces we got at the moment.
Thats not to say nothing can't happen. Just unrealistic. Best bet may be trying to pry Pryzbilla to SA. Last I had read was that he wanted to resign with charlotte.
Also Dalembert is a FA as well.
Any interest in Casspi?
or this one with Minny?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3vh2q38
Ah, it. Probably still zero chance of happening, but I tried to be somewhat of a realist.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3j7842f
I have the feeling you're trying to say something. But what is it?
Richard Jefferson for Becky Hammon.
Least we'd have something to look at
I only want RJ off this team as soon as possible. Thanks
One trade that I think could be good for both teams, is, as absurd as it could seem, with Milwaukee.
RJ + Blair for Maggette + their first round draft choice
Rj is obviously better than Mag for the up tempo "Jennings" bucks...and has a fair contract compared to Mag's.
Mag didn't have a good season with Milw, but showed stretches of still having a good game.
Mag imho could work a lot better than RJ in our system...more than all 'cause he has the body to be the "small ball four" we always wanted and that rj has swowed he can't be. Plus, differently from rj, has still the ability to create his own shot that's necessary in a slower rythm that we play (and, like rj, has some ability to shoot the three, expecially if so requested).
Blair looks like the ideal complement of a young Bogut...
Lets Blow this joint!!
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=65azpyp
tony, dj
manu, neal
Batum, Anderson
Tim, Thomas
Kaman, Splitter
depth
Portland gets a clutch shooter in Jackson and gets a younger Point guard
Clippers get a better SF in Jefferson and also get blair who between him and blake the league wont get any rebounds
Bobcats get a star name to bring fans back in B-roy, also get some young talent in hill and fernandez
ps im half asleep
haha
Not sure if you remember, but the Bucks were the team that droped RJ onto the Spurs like a hot potato.
The Bucks couldn't wait to find a sucker like the Spurs to drop him on so they can wash their hands from him. I just don't see the Bucks wanting, or willing to take him back.
Last edited by Chomag; 05-01-2011 at 05:26 AM.
On the end of the day we all know no one will get traded. Pop will say RJ was good and that Bonner can spread the floor. I'm 99% sure they will both stay and play just as many minutes as this year.
As sad as it sounds it honestly would not surprise me if the Spurs came back with basicaly the same team that has been bounced twice early in the playoffs.
This isn't a trade idea, but it's a free agent idea..
What about K-Mart? Sure he's a thug lol, and has some knee problems, but he's a legit PF and is really strong and can play aggressive defense.. He's a free agent and will maybe want to sign with a contender? Dunno if SA is a fit for his personality or style (neither was Rasheed Wallace and the Spurs went for him too), but he is a decent PF to look to if Mcdyess retires and other top options aren't available..
Thoughts?
yeah but that was mostly for his enormous contract...thet's been re-dimensioned.
actually, as of now, they face quite the same problem with maggette...and the trade idea is based more than all on the fact that the two player's style loke better for the teams they would be traded to than to their actual teams.
None of these trade ideas mean if Pop will only bury them on the bench in favor of Bonner.
These ALL need to go;
1) Pop
2) Bonner
3) RJ
4) Hill
TD...either come off the bench or retire.
Manu/Parker...choose Spurs full time (no international ball)
or get traded.
Or just continue being mediocre.
Jiggy...i did'nt know KMART was a free agent. He'd be a great addition to our team. Would love to sign him on the cheap. 24 minutes each for kmart and timmy at the PF position would be pretty sweet.
RJ for Becky Hammon!
Timmy is my favorite all time player of course, one of the 10 greatest in history easy. But he's on the books for $18,835,381! Sorry but thats way overpriced for Tim these days. If Tim wants to finish with another ring i wish he could re-negotiate a smaller contract, surely he's made enough to retire comfortably for the rest of his life already. 18 million is like 1.5 million per point averaged, crazy. I wish he could shave off heaps of his contract to sign another good Centre and Small Forward. I make $40,000 a year. What the heck do these guys need with 18 million a year...
Yes, he is an unrestricted FA..
I think Timmy could get his 28 mins like this year and K-Mart could get around 24 mins split between mostly PF and some center minutes. He's a not so bad option, tough, very athletic and doesn't back down. He could defend lots of the guys that give us defensive issues like Dirk, Zbo, Odom, etc.
Main issues against him as I said earlier are his age, mentality, and injury history.
True that. He could guard Zach and Lamar and Dirk, Aldridge and the others. He'd be fantastic. We need someone tough with an at ude who won't back down to anyone. Been to two NBA finals, played with RJ if we keep him around (pray we don't) . Big upgrade over the retiring Dice and Bonner. Bring him on board! Need to go out with a bang
How about a trade with Golden State.
RJ and Boner for Biedrins and Dorell Wright. Immediately get a 7 foot centre and 6'9" SF who averaged 16 points 5 rebounds and 37% from 3 and 1.5 steals a game.
Would love that to go down
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