So, tell me about Dasean Butler

[rmt]

and whether he can take over for the totally underwhelming RJ.

[024]

can he shoot like sam young?

[chazley]

He is still limping around, still a bit over-weight. He would have been a top 15-20 pick before his injury which cost him his whole rookie season. He isn't overly athletic or great at any one facet of the game, but he is a good all around player.

Are we talking about a fat Corey Brewer here?

[SenorSpur]

I liked Sam Young a lot coming out of Pitt, and I was disappointed that Memphis took him one pick ahead of the Spurs. After watching him consistently destroy the Spurs in the playoffs, I like him even more.

[chazley]

I liked Sam Young a lot coming out of Pitt, and I was disappointed that Memphis took him one pick ahead of the Spurs. After watching him consistently destroy the Spurs in the playoffs, I like him even more.

Uhhh, what series were you watching? He had two good games, with a high of 18 points. He has no 3-point shot, and although he was highly effective with the long twos against us, judging by his shot mechanics it's not something that will keep up long term. He is a tough, rugged defender but not someone I'd say 'destroyed us'.

[Nathan89]

I liked Sam Young a lot coming out of Pitt, and I was disappointed that Memphis took him one pick ahead of the Spurs. After watching him consistently destroy the Spurs in the playoffs, I like him even more.

Uhhh, what series were you watching? He had two good games, with a high of 18 points. He has no 3-point shot, and although he was highly effective with the long twos against us, judging by his shot mechanics it's not something that will keep up long term. He is a tough, rugged defender but not someone I'd say 'destroyed us'.

SenorSpur just got sample sized.

Honestly Senor you should trust his take he has a history of being spot on.

[chazley]

SenorSpur just got sample sized.

Honestly Senor you should trust his take he has a history of being spot on.

I know you're being sarcastic, obviously, but I was dead wrong about Bonner. He was a huge drag on us against the Grizzlies for a few games.

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Sam scored ten points a game in 22 minutes per, shot 51% from the floor and 38% from three. The only Spur that topped those percentages was Splitter who shot 63%.

[yavozerb]

He is still limping around, still a bit over-weight. He would have been a top 15-20 pick before his injury which cost him his whole rookie season. He isn't overly athletic or great at any one facet of the game, but he is a good all around player.

Have you seen him play since the injury? If not I would probably wait and see what exactly he could provide following a major injury. I agree he WAS a good all-around player, but will see what he can be in the NBA following major knee surgery..

[HankChinaski]

well six months till training camp albeit a lock out. We can see where he is with rehab done and getting into basketball shape and form all over again. Low risk, High reward signing. it's all up in the air.

[elemento]

Young played well, but destroy is just not the right word here.

The only guy that destroyed the Spurs was Randolph.

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Young played well, but destroy is just not the right word here.

The only guy that destroyed the Spurs was Randolph.

I think Randolph deserves a new verb. 'Face literated' might work.

[chazley]

To be honest, I was HUGELY disappointed with Bonner in this series. I thought he would go off against two slow bigs like ZBo and Marc, but if he isn't capable of hitting threes against those two in the playoffs, there's no hope for Matt Bonner on any playoff team. He is still a GREAT weapon to have for the regular season though... which no longer interests me.

I still don't think my main point was way off though... Bonner is such a good regular season player that I wanted to get a larger playoff sample size to have a better judge of if he was good or not in the playoffs. We now have the sample size that says Bonner is no more than a situational playoff player.

All along I've said Tiago should be our third big, Matt fourth, Dejuan 5th. Only thing I'd change is Dejuan 4th, Bonner 5th.

[yavozerb]

To be honest, I was HUGELY disappointed with Bonner in this series. I thought he would go off against two slow bigs like ZBo and Marc, but if he isn't capable of hitting threes against those two in the playoffs, there's no hope for Matt Bonner on any playoff team. He is still a GREAT weapon to have for the regular season though... which no longer interests me.

I still don't think my main point was way off though... Bonner is such a good regular season player that I wanted to get a larger playoff sample size to have a better judge of if he was good or not in the playoffs. We now have the sample size that says Bonner is no more than a situational playoff player.

All along I've said Tiago should be our third big, Matt fourth, Dejuan 5th. Only thing I'd change is Dejuan 4th, Bonner 5th.

I thought this thread was about Dasean Butler?

[chazley]

I thought this thread was about Dasean Butler?

Just responding to a comment.

Phila, best comparison you can make between DeSean and a current or well known player?

[ChuckD]

can he shoot like sam young?

Probably not.

Sam Young's 3G% for the year was 34% (career 26%), which is below NBA average (36%). The bar isn't that high.

[ChuckD]

Sam scored ten points a game in 22 minutes per, shot 51% from the floor and 38% from three. The only Spur that topped those percentages was Splitter who shot 63%.

SenorSpur just got sample sized.

Honestly Senor you should trust his take he has a history of being spot on.

[HankChinaski]

In college he was made out to be closer to a Paul Pierce/Caron Butler type of player

edit.

Coming into the draft that is.

[chazley]

In college he was made out to be closer to a Paul Pierce/Caron Butler type of player

edit.

Coming into the draft that is.

Haven't heard much about his offense, those kind of comparisons sure are lofty, and 70% of either of those players would be a great fit for our team if true.

[rmt]

In college he was made out to be closer to a Paul Pierce/Caron Butler type of player

edit.

Coming into the draft that is.

So, is his body type like PP (stocky) or Ariza-type (skinny)? The reason I ask is because the Spurs have wanted a long defensive 3 for so long when the elite SFs are PP/Lebron/Melo body type. That's probably why LA traded Ariza for Artest. Guess I'm just tired of seeing every Spur being posted up and backed down.

Also, is he a good defender?

[yavozerb]

This guy has not played competative basketball in over a year..Nobody (not even the spurs organization) knows what to expect from this guy. Most of us can give a run down on his skillset from his college days when he was healthy but he is not the same player and probably never will be that player again with his major knee injury. This guy might be the only player in the NBA hoping for a lockout so its give him more time to recover and refine his game..

[ChuckD]

The college 3-point line is a joke and Butler didn't even shoot from there all that often.

5.2 3s per game as a Senior, 5.1 as a Junior. Unless his shot looks like Marion's, Chip will have him shooting 36-38% from the NBA 3 point line.

[Mal]

can he shoot like sam young?

He was way better player in NCAA

[ChuckD]

This guy has not played competative basketball in over a year..Nobody (not even the spurs organization) knows what to expect from this guy. Most of us can give a run down on his skillset from his college days when he was healthy but he is not the same player and probably never will be that player again with his major knee injury. This guy might be the only player in the NBA hoping for a lockout so its give him more time to recover and refine his game..

A torn ACL isn't a career changer like it used to be 30-40 years ago. In fact, from a longevity standpoint, it's worse to tear or hole your knee cartilage. You can re-attach the ACL, rehab, and restore stability. You can never replace the cushioning for your bones provided by the now-gone cartilage.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

To be honest, I was HUGELY disappointed with Bonner in this series. I thought he would go off against two slow bigs like ZBo and Marc, but if he isn't capable of hitting threes against those two in the playoffs, there's no hope for Matt Bonner on any playoff team. He is still a GREAT weapon to have for the regular season though... which no longer interests me.

I still don't think my main point was way off though... Bonner is such a good regular season player that I wanted to get a larger playoff sample size to have a better judge of if he was good or not in the playoffs. We now have the sample size that says Bonner is no more than a situational playoff player.

All along I've said Tiago should be our third big, Matt fourth, Dejuan 5th. Only thing I'd change is Dejuan 4th, Bonner 5th.

You don't need a large playoff sample size to call Bonner a playoff scrub. We've all known it for over two years now.