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    Inthe land of audiophiles angelbelow's Avatar
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    Exactly. You made my point for me.

    What sounds more likely:

    1. Splitter turns into a 12-points, 10-rebound defensive force. Neal or Hill take the next step to be either a legit starting shooting guard or a 6MOY candidate. Another two or three horses can be located that can carry the slack. The Old Big 3 can peak in the playoffs. The Spurs make one last surprising run with a team that depends on six or seven players rather than three.
    Well we can certainly hope for this. Imagine if we auditioned Splitter enough this year, we would be able to make more of an educated guess oh how much hes going to average/contribute next year.

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    that or make a trade.

    all these guys should be on the table IMO:

    Gary Neal, Blair, Bonner.

    as much as i like Gary Neal, his stock might be the highest it'll ever be right now. i think for next year and for the future, James Anderson is a way better option. he's young, pretty athletic and has good size. i would say that George Hill should be used as an asset too, but there's no back up pg on this team. Quinn won't cut it. if trading one or all of those guys can net a guy with size i would be all for it. then you hope to draft a big to go along with that. as for Richards, i put no stock into this guy. i've seen a youtube video of him, but anyone can look goon on a youtube compilation.
    Neal won't be traded. He has value but his contract is like 500k.

    Blair and Hill are likely are trade chips and may be packaged with Bonner or Dices contract. RJ is probably here to stay until 2013. With that said, I think we have a big hole at the 3 and James Anderson is one of the players that can potential help. So I believe that Neal and Anderson can coexist.

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    No, Neal's not a backup point guard. The point is: Neither is Hill. I'd get a backup point guard like a normal team does.
    yeah, i agree with that reasoning.

    Parker/FA PG (maybe T.J. Ford, or Anthony Carter)
    Manu/Neal
    James Anderson/RJ

    gotta get a defensive wing though because i still don't think that's a wing rotation that's going to play much better perimiter defense than this year, or if it'll even be better at all. Spurs need a true difference maker defensively on the perimiter.

    only team without a true go-to player to win it all in the last 50 years is the '04 Pistons, and they did it with defense. but even that team had a legit low post scorer in Rasheed Wallace. Duncan's not there anymore. i just see no concievable way the Spurs can get back to a championship level team w/o that. it's one of the reason i still see OKC as being somewhat suspect. but Spurs don't have KD or Westbrook level talent to somwhat compensate for that.
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    The season has ended more abruptly then I would expected. However, given the struggles since the All-Star break, this outcome is not totally surprising.

    Just read from NBA.com that Popovich said injuries to Duncan and Ginobili disturbed the team's rhythm heading into the playoffs, and that the team would not undergo drastic changes this offseason.

    http://www.nba.com/2011/news/04/30/s...s=iref:nbahpt2

    I agree the team should not panic and keeping the Big-3 intact is not a bad move regarding the last run for Duncan to contend for a . Some youngsters should be kept and developed. After Duncan and Ginobili's retirement, I would expect the superstars won't prefer to play in SA even with the salary cap relief. Therefore the young core will become the cornerstone of this team. In future I would be more than satisfied if they play as a coherent group, like the Rockets this season.

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    Anderson, Green and Butler are going to have some chances to develop, and the odds aren't bad that one of them will be impressive. I think Splitter is already the best all-around center since Five Oh left, and he's going to get better. There's really no reason not to expect Neal to improve. Richards is coming in at some point, and you'd hope that Pop will learn his lesson about not giving young guys burn. If Duncan's defense and rebounding continue at the same level, and if the Spurs go back to gameplanning to defend, then they should be fine and I like their chances against anyone.
    You had me at o.

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    I think that Spurs are not going to make any major changes. TP has said that this was the last year of a real chance of contending. That's probably why Duncan said this was one of his toughest losses - he really did think that they had a chance.

    This past year Spurs have re-signed Manu (3 years), RJ (4), Bonner (4) and TP (4). They are resigned to the fact that they weren't going to contend after this year. I don't think they're going to trade anyone. The only one they might think of trading would be RJ but with his contract who would want him. We have been spoiled with 13 years of contention, but the reality is that so few teams really contend or win. I think that as fans we just have to re-adjust our expectations.

    Duncan deserves to do whatever he wants - whether that be play out his contract, retire, opt out and re-sign at a lower amount/longer years. Manu is very popular - he doesn't want to go anywhere and he won't (from a financial/draw POV). TP also doesn't want to play with anyone but TD/Manu/Pop. When they retire, then he'll be okay with going to some other team until he retires.

    They're just going to go along, try to ac ulate and develop the players they have and wait out TD/Manu retiring. IMO, there's zero chance they blow it up and very little chance that they try to reload with the intention of contending.

    That said, here's my opinion on what they should do:
    1) Try to trade RJ with Blair - preferably for a (post) scoring (not undersized) big
    2) Get rid of Bonner - he shouldn't be as hard to move as RJ - try to get a mobile 4.
    3) Use MLE for SF (at least 6'7" and strong - not skinny-type like Ariza)
    4) Play Splitter as many minutes as possible.
    5) Hope that Butler can play backup SF.
    6) Keep Novak for his 3pt shooting.
    7) Try to convince TD to opt-out and re-sign at a much lower price.

    Bruno, Spurs (34-19) were virtually even with MEM (35-20) since Jan. 1. Spurs just had a hot start to the season and Mem a bad start with their new players trying to adjust. MEM was not a bad team - their style suits playoffs much more than Spurs. Only for a short stretch in 1st quarter of game 5 did Spurs play like they did all season long. MEM imposed their will on them.

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    Just read from NBA.com that Popovich said injuries to Duncan and Ginobili disturbed the team's rhythm heading into the playoffs...

    Using the injury excuse every single year gets old. Every team, including Memphis, has injuries.

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    Spurs have to find a contract as bad as Jefferson and make a trade. And the big problem is just not find a bad contract it needs to be a long and bad contract because Jefferson deal end only in 2014

    Maybe RJ for Petro and Outlaw

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    Using the injury excuse every single year gets old. Every team, including Memphis, has injuries.
    Especially since Manu is always injured this time of year. Like b2b games, one of our built-in excuses.

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    Unless you put FIRED Pop at the Top of the list. It doesn't matter who we get or lose in the off season.

    Pop will find a way to choke the Spurs season away. For 4 years, this guy is the problem. And it seems every year he blames it on injuries. Well not this year. That ain't going to fly. The Spurs were out coached by the Grizz and that's why we lost. We had the better team and HCA yet we are on vacation. Pop has to go. PERIOD
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    Sadly, this is moot since there will not be a next season: http://bit.ly/lrWN2i (video) The Bible reveals that May 21, 2011 is Judgment Day.

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    what do you guys think of this trade. You cant expect anything great for RJ, but we need him off the team. I'm trading for . but some just doesnt smell that bad. might even consider throwing in another player or draft pick to make them do the trade.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3o3xwgc

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    What's the problem with Greg Oden ? I think we're desperate enough to go hard after him in the off season.

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    What's the problem with Greg Oden ? I think we're desperate enough to go hard after him in the off season.
    What's not to love about a big man who has played a combined 21 games of basketball in the last two years due to injury?

    Sign him up for the max!

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    I am one of the guys who thinks TD should retire after his performance in this years playoffs. But I just saw the first round numbers of Pau Gasol (13 Pts, 7 Reb, 42% FG) ... should the spaniard retire too?

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    Don't you ever get tired of defending Pop on here 24/7 Yavozerb.. lol

    Ian Mahinmi has the athleticism and size to be an impact player in the nba, a Serge Ibaka type player. He's what, 25 years old now? All he needs is an opportunity which will eventually come his way.

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    Don't you ever get tired of defending Pop on here 24/7 Yavozerb.. lol

    Ian Mahinmi has the athleticism and size to be an impact player in the nba, a Serge Ibaka type player. He's what, 25 years old now? All he needs is an opportunity which will eventually come his way.
    But can he hit the three in the regular season when it doesn't matter? [/Pop]

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    I want Oden and Batum here next year, give the blazers all they want except for Timmy and Manu, find a third team, don't know, must be possible, Aggie, RC do this now !

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    start a lineup of:

    Parker
    Anderson
    Butler/Green----whoever wins out the compe ion for starting spot
    Duncan
    Splitter

    bench
    Manu
    Hill/Neal
    Butler/Green Loser
    Blair
    Whomever we pick up this offseason.

    Trim the Fat.

    -After the beating OKC took from the grizzlies today, I'm convinced that the Grizzlies could very well go to the finals. They were the better team, but not by much. I would love to keep dyess but as like the 4th or 5th big man off the bench, and not at the cost of us losing out on a more talented big man. The drive for five is still alive, and I believe with just a couple of subtle changes, and a new mindset of defense first, that we could truly contend next year.

    -Get rid of RJ, Bonner, Hill and Neal if we have to, to get a shotblocking big man. IF no one takes, keep bonner and RJ glued to the bench where theyd make nice cheerleaders and not have any pressure on them.

    -I love me some neal, but to me everything he does is negated by him on the defensive side. Has anyone else in the nba given up as much and 1's as him?I also feel JA has the higher ceiling and can replace the production.

    -I feel like we need to trim down the amount of wings we have, maybe im wrong. It has to affetct the way someone plays when you never know if you are gonna play or not.
    -Look at the following big men this offseason:

    Kenyon Martin- Tough gritty big man, with some range.

    Kris Humpries- Dont know much about him, besides the fact that he was on my fantasy team this year, and rebounded at a kevin love rate, blocked the occasional shot, and scored about 10 a game. Could be case of just being on a bad team, with mr anti-rebound brook

    Deandre Jordan- Atheltic shotblocking bigman that would be great for us, although I wonder if he could handle POP with his immaturity, and not sure where his BBiq lies.

    Greg Oden- same as Jordan, with more IQ. problem is he is as fragile as an 95 year old man with osteoporosis. Someone is probably gonna offer way more to him than we ever could.

    Yao Ming- This just sounds crazy. Would be great next to duncan. Im thinking , make an mle offer to him,, maybe just a one or two year contract? His value has never been lower. We wouldnt have to play him that many minutes hopefully increasing the likelihood that he wouldn't get hurt. Talk about presence though, depending on what he has left.

    NENE- Love him as a player, but just dont see him fitting any needs for us, always seemed kind of soft to me.

    Tyson Chandler- Doubtful, but one could only hope he sees his chances of winning a ring better with the spurs than mavs.

    Anderson Varjao- Great defender, midrange shot, rebounder, and intangibles. Kind of brings the same things as tiago"blue collar worker". Maybe trading like bonner and blair for him would work.

    OK I know some of these are pipe dreams, but let me hear your thoughts on what we should do.
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    I want Oden and Batum here next year, give the blazers all they want except for Timmy and Manu, find a third team, don't know, must be possible, Aggie, RC do this now !
    Intelligent well thought out response.

    Nevermind that

    1) Portland hates us and will never trade with us

    2) Batum is a cheap player for them relative to what he does for them, they have no reason to trade him

    3) Oden is damaged goods. We need youth and athleticism, not a guy coming off microfracture surgery with brittle knees that's only played 20 basketball games in the last two years.

    I think you're the one who needs to off.

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    I would just love for the Spurs to have a true back up at every position, specifically the SF spot.

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    I would just love for the Spurs to have a true back up at every position, specifically the SF spot.
    I'd like the Spurs to have a true starter at the SF spot.

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    I don't care what you think, you POS. Get the off my !

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    Seriously In my opinion I ll do that :


    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3c3sle9



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    Maybe I add another player to push the trade for Minesota.

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