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Why? Because you say so?
You don't have any expertise doing forensics in this area, do you?
Can you point to ANY forensics experts that back your claim up?
And you thought birthers were ridiculous and unreasonable
Why? Because you say so?
You don't have any expertise doing forensics in this area, do you?
Can you point to ANY forensics experts that back your claim up?
You don't get it. Do you?
The laying makes it easier to alter an image. All the text could have been put together as desired.
How do you know this? Do you often layer images or do forensics? Did you read this somewhere?
Please explain why layering would indicate this was a forgery.
Are you serious?
We have layers of material that can easily be altered and reassembled.
Since when does such a simple concept require an expert?
Tell me now. What was the experts exact words....
The only think I noticed was that they say it is normal for such a scanned pdf to be like that.
Stop right there er.
I am getting sick and tired of you assholes twisting my words.
I did not say it was a forgery.
Go off since you two are too ing stupid to comprehend simple things.
You still don't get it
None of the layers are text layers, and the top layers occlude the bottom layers (as they should). Making changes on any layer would make it EASIER to spot the change once layers are merged. It's HARDER to doctor a multi-layer scan than a single layer.
If I cared, I could probably even determine what scanner brand and model was used to scan the do ent.
Let it go. This is no parts changer or motorola 68000 territory.
Run lola run
WC wikipedia's this , he knows what he's talking about......
It's not impossible to change a layer, and you know it. It's not even that hard.You still don't get it
None of the layers are text layers, and the top layers occlude the bottom layers (as they should). Making changes on any layer would make it EASIER to spot the change once layers are merged. It's HARDER to doctor a multi-layer scan than a single layer.
If I cared, I could probably even determine what scanner brand and model was used to scan the do ent.
Let it go. This is no parts changer or motorola 68000 territory.
Just because you say it's easy doesn't make it so. Why should multiple layers be harder to fake than a single layer? I'm no expert, so surely you can either give ms technical details or give me a link.
So if it's normal for layers to be scanned like that, why is it fishy? Wouldn't making the do ent on one layer (or NOT normal) be fishy?
As a matter of fact, if you went through the trouble of doctoring the layers, the LAST thing you would do is release a multi-layered do ent, since it provides a larger sample to scrutinize for doctoring. This is image forensics 101.
So if it's easy to change one layer, why is it easier to change multiple layers?
I give up. Two closed minds that wish to remain ignorant.
It is when the layers below it are occluded by the top layers. Go look at the Illustrator videos posted in the thread. See when you take out the text part, the bottom part still has the silhouette of the text? That means you have to edit that too and it has to be so BOTH layers cannot be detected as doctored.
Youre the one who can't comprehend. I didn't say you were calling it a forgery. I asked you to explain why multiple layers MIGHT indicate it as a forgery, mores than a single layer do ent would.
You said it's fishy. That must mean that multiple layers is more indicative of forgery than single layers. I'm asking you to explain why, on a technical level.
LOl you're getting free lessons in digital image forensics and call people close minded. Pay attention!
You keep saying "it's fishy" and expect hand waving to save the day because you don't realize it would be harder to fake a multi layer do ent rather than a single layer. A single layer do ent would be fishy, since they'd be scanning it in a way that wasn't normal.
But keep taking umbrage at us asking for evidence. It's your MO.
Hilarious he thinks this is like a layered photoshop image. The scanner doesn't know what's under the ink, thus the background still has the text silhouette on it. The only layering the scanner does is a color separation using a threshold to layer out the text so it can be OCRd easier.
Maybe I should do more than separate layers and create a do ent? Afterall, all I have to do is separate the layers, change the green fill as needed, alter the text layer, and put the layers back together.
Wouldn't it be easier to just forge ONE single layer instead of doing all of the above?Maybe I should do more than separate layers and create a do ent? Afterall, all I have to do is separate the layers, change the green fill as needed, alter the text, and put the layers back together.
Also, wouldn't you have to make sure that the edits on one layer reflected the edits on another layer?
I'm glad you finally understand what I've been trying to tell you.
You have to doctor two layers, then they have to match once reassembled, without vestiges of the doctoring.
A single layer do ent is MUCH easier to doctor, since you don't have to worry about the underlying layers.
BTW, you can split ANY do ent in layers like that post-facto with Illustrator. Obviously, somebody that never used AI has little to no idea.
You do. And if you think hiding changes on a single layer is difficult, changing it on two is even harder.
That's actually real easy to do.
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