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    Howard going to bolt in 2012 right? Orlando going to want to get something for him before he bolts right? like maybe getting out of Arenas's contract?

    RJ + TD* + 3 first round draft picks for Arenas + Howard?

    *agreement that they buy out TD and we bring him back





    edit: or 5 first rounders, OR 7! WHATEVER IT TAKES!! GIVE THEM MANU!!

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    What about Roy Hibbert? I know he wasn't before but I noticed that he was only playing a bit over 20 minutes a game in the playoffs. Has he fallen out of favor for the Pacers, if so maybe he might be obtainable now?

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    One player I have always liked is Andris Biedrins..He currently has 2 yrs guranteed left on his contract for a total of 18mil and a 3rd season with team option also for 9 mil. His play has steadily gotten worse over the past 3 seasons and his free throw shooting is the worst in the NBA. With all that said the guy is still 25 years old, great size, good defender, and good rebounder. Not sure with all the labor issues going on if mcdyess contract is still tradable with him set to retire..

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    What about Roy Hibbert? I know he wasn't before but I noticed that he was only playing a bit over 20 minutes a game in the playoffs. Has he fallen out of favor for the Pacers, if so maybe he might be obtainable now?
    I like Roy alot, but with a cheap contract and still pretty young these kind of players are really hard to come by with trades..Indiana has no incentive to trade him since he does hurt them salary wise.

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    Can a team trade for player if they are below the salary cap without giving equal salary compensation? An example of this would be minnesota trading the spurs there 1st rd pick along with the rights to Rubio for TP. With the Wolves cap numbers looking like they would be at around 43 mil., they do not have to match salaries, correct? Just wondering

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    Can a team trade for player if they are below the salary cap without giving equal salary compensation? An example of this would be minnesota trading the spurs there 1st rd pick along with the rights to Rubio for TP. With the Wolves cap numbers looking like they would be at around 43 mil., they do not have to match salaries, correct? Just wondering
    This is correct. The Spurs can deal Parker for Rubio's rights if the Wolves have the cap space to absorb a player's contract, in this case, Tony Parker, and still remain under the cap. This, just being an example though as the Wolves have no incentive to trade away Rubio's rights + their 1st round pick for Tony Parker who don't fit into their schemes. The Spurs would also receive a trade exception worth Tony Parker's salary for that year for the next 12 months to be used as a trade asset.

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    This is correct. The Spurs can deal Parker for Rubio's rights if the Wolves have the cap space to absorb a player's contract, in this case, Tony Parker, and still remain under the cap. This, just being an example though as the Wolves have no incentive to trade away Rubio's rights + their 1st round pick for Tony Parker who don't fit into their schemes. The Spurs would also receive a trade exception worth Tony Parker's salary for that year for the next 12 months to be used as a trade asset.
    Thanks...I only mentioned the wolves cause they should be feeling some pressure to put together a winning team ASAP to give some kind of reasoning for Love to resign next season.

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    wtf u wanna trade for that clown rubio who wants to play for a contender or get paid?

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    i don't want Rubio

    This boy is the most overrated international player ever !

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    wtf u wanna trade for that clown rubio who wants to play for a contender or get paid?
    i don't want Rubio

    This boy is the most overrated international player ever !
    , easy..Was just using that as example...However, if Rubio was accompanied by the 1st rd pick say derrick williams and a big trade exemption then .......

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    A trade I'd like to try is the following.
    Considering Dice is going to retire, but in case could play justt in another team with nba le ambitions.
    Considering it's a long time we desired a long three with defensive abilities and they took him away from us (Brewer)
    Considering we developed Mahinmi for some years, sop he knows our system, and he showed also in Dallas flashes of being a potential decent big (He didn't play more 'cause Haywood and Chandler are superior in experience and till now still better players)
    Considering we're trying to rejouvanete our team and the best way to do that is by young players at a decent price
    Considering Dallas has already to re-sign two of his actual long three that have more value than Brewer (I mean Stojakovic, that's playing very well for them, and Butler);
    Considering they're gonna re-sign at a more than decent price their actual bestt fit at center (Chandler)
    Considering that with the folowing trade, at worst, they're gonna cut Dice paying just a little amount of his contract


    well.....all this considered, a trade Brewer+Mahinmi+ something more (draft choices) for Dice contract could be a good thing for both teams...

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    Why would Dallas trade Brewer? He's been an outstanding addition for them. As for Mahinmi... that ship has sunk, folks.

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    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...Trade_Iguodala

    Iguodala on the market. One of the best defenders in the league.

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    Yeah too bad we are paying 30M to Jefferson

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    Spurs best offer for Iguodala should be RJ+Blair+Dice+1st.
    The first round pick could the 2012 first round pick because it has more value than the 29th pick of 2011.

    Sadly, I don't think it will be enough.

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    I doubt we have enough also. The best chance we have is offering cap relief and players, because Indy could trump our offer by just taking in Iggy to their cap space, Giving the 76ers a giant ass trade exception at the same time.

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    Spurs best offer for Iguodala should be RJ+Blair+Dice+1st.
    The first round pick could the 2012 first round pick because it has more value than the 29th pick of 2011.

    Sadly, I don't think it will be enough.
    ya think...

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    And even if 76ers agrees with that kind of deal, I'm not sure Spurs should do it.

    Spurs biggest need is to improve their PF and C spots. If you spent all your money and trade assets on a SF, the team still has a big hole inside.

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    Parker / Bonner / McDyess exception

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    Gasol / Blake

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    Nocioni + Iguodala for Bonner, Jefferson, Dice expiring works.
    Good for Sixers 'cause, cutting Dice, they spare more than 6 millions bucks and they get rid of Nocioni (that's the other contract they don't want).
    In case, maybe we could add Blair...
    The only way to fix our needing for a legitimate big, IMHO, is via playing Splitter, developing Richards and acquiring a veteran with the exceptions (Foster, Arthur, Chandler...).

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    Nocioni + Iguodala for Bonner, Jefferson, Dice expiring works.
    Good for Sixers 'cause, cutting Dice, they spare more than 6 millions bucks and they get rid of Nocioni (that's the other contract they don't want).
    In case, maybe we could add Blair...
    The only way to fix our needing for a legitimate big, IMHO, is via playing Splitter, developing Richards and acquiring a veteran with the exceptions (Foster, Arthur, Chandler...).
    Uh no. Trading trash for treasure is not fair. 76ers will not trade their best player for crap.

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    just posted it on the other thread.
    Tony for Odom, with the lakers adding some teaser, however this trade is designed. (teaser could be they take Bonner as well and they send us Brown and Ebanks)
    this would allow the Spurs to become a player in the 2012 free agency. doesn't solve all problems and would produce some holes, but it gives us a starter quality big, who still has likely two good years and can play 30+ minutes. Tim and Tiago share the Center minutes, Odom and Blair the PF. Odom should fit well alongside either Tim or Tiago.

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    just posted it on the other thread.
    Tony for Odom, with the lakers adding some teaser, however this trade is designed. (teaser could be they take Bonner as well and they send us Brown and Ebanks)
    this would allow the Spurs to become a player in the 2012 free agency. doesn't solve all problems and would produce some holes, but it gives us a starter quality big, who still has likely two good years and can play 30+ minutes. Tim and Tiago share the Center minutes, Odom and Blair the PF. Odom should fit well alongside either Tim or Tiago.
    Odom is a cheap shotting crybaby jackass who would loaf around and probably get Pop angry enough to put him in the doghouse.

    I'd much prefer to have the better passing big in Gasol. I think we'd see a revitilization of Gasol's career playing as the #1 banana again. Gasol and his passing would fit seamlessly into the team whereas Odom's selfish idiocy would be a terrible fit.

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    Odom is a cheap shotting crybaby jackass who would loaf around and probably get Pop angry enough to put him in the doghouse.

    I'd much prefer to have the better passing big in Gasol. I think we'd see a revitilization of Gasol's career playing as the #1 banana again. Gasol and his passing would fit seamlessly into the team whereas Odom's selfish idiocy would be a terrible fit.
    Gasol makes 18.7 M next season, Odom makes 8.9.
    Gasol has 57 million guaranteed $ till 2014, Odom 11.3 till 2012.
    Spurs will rebuild from 2012, when Tim retires.
    Gasol is the better player overall, Odom is the better defender.
    Lakers would not trade Gasol for Parker, but they would trade Odom for Parker.

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