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If you know the history of Geronimo I can understand them being upset. I know I think of toughness and honor when I think of Geronimo.
I don't think anyone thinks it reinforces the idea that Native Americans are enemies, they own all the coolest casinos. So they can't be ALL bad.
If you know the history of Geronimo I can understand them being upset. I know I think of toughness and honor when I think of Geronimo.
What if he had the code name Jesus?
Would that be offensive to anyone?
Fair enough - your strawman was more real than I thought.
However....
The first item is a bit much, but the 2nd thing you highlighted is spot on.
Probably, but that would be a more obviously offensive name. As I said upthread, if anything is "messed up", it's lack of knowledge about Native American history, with this being an indicator of that.
Holy ! Are you serious?
I just don't think you even need that much history though. Geronimo is a pretty ing huge figure in American History.
What's the big deal? It's just a code name....lol, etc....
Good point. I doubt African-American leaders would wait to complain. I think, real-world, that Native Americans have less "pull" though, so they have to pick and choose their spots better. (Definitely not saying that's right, just realpolitik.)
Another good point.
Probably not. I know of his history, but I don't think I've had much interaction with Native American culture.Awww, they're party poopers. I don't think you understand what Geronimo means to a lot of natives.
its a ploy for more casino's
I wouldn't bet on that. Again, the Native Americans are a proud people and if one would just read up on their history you'd understand.
Lots of reservations around here and I live with an American Studies degree holder who did a lot on Native American studies. On day one when they released the code name Jekka emailed me knowing this was going to be bad.
The Hispanic community would have been throwing a fit. You know how many people that build houses with that name? A ton. And no other race has more Jesus's than Hispanics, and since they will be the majority of America soon they know it's best not to offend them.
Cmon Manny, have you not seen how many dumb people there are in those "man on the street" segments various shows do?
As well, knowing about the history of Geronimo doesn't really give you an idea of the cultural relevancy of the figure.
Geronimo = Attacked the U.S.
Osama Bin Laden = Attacked the U.S.
It could be said that both attacked the U.S. for idealistic reasons, Geronimo attacking the U.S. because of their push into Apache territory, and Osama Bin Laden attacking the U.S. because of it's push into the middle east and more specifically into his homeland of Saudi Arabia.
I live in New Mexico so I can really sympathize with how the Native Americans are feeling, and this really pisses me off!
crofl what a
My thoughts exactly. You know this was going to happen.
I would have given him a much less flattering nickname.
"pustule" or similar.
"We have popped the pustule". Take that.
I would have gone with Megatron.
Unacceptable. Offensive to nerds.
Coyote would've been perfect.
Would have gone with waldo myself
everyones offended at everything. welcome to the 21st century.
i dont see any problem with the name...geronimo was someone on the loose from american authorities and would have been seen as some type of terrorist back then.
plus when they jumped out of the helis into the complex you know they were all yelling "GERONIMOOOOOOOOOO"
bin Laden
performed genocide on their ppl, slave them and alcoholize their society, taken to death camps (err I mean "reservations") and they are offended at the missuse of Geronimo??
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