"Pau is the real MVP of the Lakers"

[Koolaid_Man]

Pau is playing like he just found out he has cancer.

^ this X 10

[Giuseppe]

Pau is playing like he just found out he has cancer.

Or, a 14 incher lodged deeply.

[Cry Havoc]

Poor logic. The "MVP" of the team doesn't get manhandled and pushed around the way Pau has this entire post season. He's definitely important for the Lakers to have success. But he's no way the MVP of the Lakers. You know what to expect from Kobe. He's going to come out aggressively and make his mark on the game. You wonder about Pau. He gets blocked a couple times, pushed around with no foul call, gets the ball stripped, and he becomes an average role player who will make a few shots and get a few rebounds. But he will be for the most part neutralized.

It's not being an "MVP" of the team when if you play well the team wins but you don't always play well. You're the MVP of the team if you find a way to influence the game even if you don't play well. Pau is critical for the Lakers to have success. It's beyond foolish to think he's the MVP of the team.

What would you say if Pau played like he did all last year? Would he be the MVP of the Lakers at that point, or would he be something akin to a co-MVP with Kobe, or would it still be the latter? Just curious. It seems to me like when Gasol is playing really well, the Lakers don't need Kobe to do much to win, but if Gasol is having a bad game, Kobe needs to have ridiculous numbers to make up for it.

[Giuseppe]

Jammie really got these Spurs fellows good with that doozy.

tee, hee.

[TheManFromAcme]

After three seasons where the Lakers saw the finals and back-to-back championships, Gasol is showing that the Lakers only go as far as he goes.

Precisely +2

[Giuseppe]

+++++++++I'll be interested to see if Jammie sells out this afternoon to placate said Spurs Fellows.

[Koolaid_Man]

What would you say if Pau played like he did all last year? Would he be the MVP of the Lakers at that point, or would he be something akin to a co-MVP with Kobe, or would it still be the latter? Just curious. It seems to me like when Gasol is playing really well, the Lakers don't need Kobe to do much to win, but if Gasol is having a bad game, Kobe needs to have ridiculous numbers to make up for it.

He would be a good role player...I said all along...If Pau wanted to be the man he should take it from Kobe like Kobe took it from Shaq...Pau is a pussy and won't be taking from Kobe....Glass knees has a better chance than Pau...

[Koolaid_Man]

and Ghazi I got a Bacon head wrap comin your way homie....

[Giuseppe]

I said all along...If Pau wanted to be the man he should take it from Kobe like Kobe took it from Shaq...Pau is a pussy and won't be taking from Kobe

Kool Aid Man

[ChrisRichards]

He would be a good role player...I said all along...If Pau wanted to be the man he should take it from Kobe like Kobe took it from Shaq...Pau is a pussy and won't be taking from Kobe....Glass knees has a better chance than Pau...

Pau is like Duncan. He's too classy to snatch someones shine. He'd be happy without much limelight as long as his team wins.

He doesn't take " ". He gives you 20 and 10, look at the result of his contribution, smile and go to bed.

[Giuseppe]

Pau is like Duncan. He's too classy to snatch someones shine. He'd be happy without much limelight as long as his team wins.

He doesn't take " ". He gives you 20 and 10, look at the result of his contribution, smile and go to bed.

& look at the pedestrian results that have befallen Duncan because of his passivity.

It's not a game. It's cut throat business.

"Mitch & Murray asked me for a favor. I told them the favor would be to fire your asses because a loser is a loser."

[Koolaid_Man]

Pau is like Duncan. He's too classy to snatch someones shine. He'd be happy without much limelight as long as his team wins.

He doesn't take " ". He gives you 20 and 10, look at the result of his contribution, smile and go to bed.

Pau's contribution doesn't mean to me unless we 3 peat...He's no real champion if he pussies out now...He's younger and should be hungrier...

In his prime Kobe destroyed all defenders...ALL OF THEM...but especially Bruce Bowen....Kobe was unguardable...and to this day he's matches all new comers in scoring output. There's no player on the court at his position at any given time that can outscore Kobe to this day...now let's compare that to Pau in is absolute prime to this day...

Pau gets owned by everyone even 6'6 gaurds own Pau...so yes I'm looking at the result...and the result is that Kobe forces this guy to step up and be a man when it goes against Pau's nature to do so...

[Giuseppe]

Pau's contribution doesn't mean to me unless we 3 peat...He's no real champion if he pussies out now...He's younger and should be hungrier

Kool Aid Man

[ChrisRichards]

Pau's contribution doesn't mean to me unless we 3 peat...He's no real champion if he pussies out now...He's younger and should be hungrier...

In his prime Kobe destroyed all defenders...ALL OF THEM...but especially Bruce Bowen....Kobe was unguardable...and to this day he's matches all new comers in scoring output. There's no player on the court at his position at any given time that can outscore Kobe to this day...now let's compare that to Pau in is absolute prime to this day...

Pau gets owned by everyone even 6'6 gaurds own Pau...so yes I'm looking at the result...and the result is that Kobe forces this guy to step up and be a man when it goes against Pau's nature to do so...

There's no way a fan can be this ungrateful, this actually cracks me up

& look at the pedestrian results that have befallen Duncan because of his passivity.

It's not a game. It's cut throat business.

"Mitch & Murray asked me for a favor. I told them the favor would be to fire your asses because a loser is a loser."

Well I agree with you there, all the great ones have a swagger. Duncan is the only exception so far.

[cobbler]

That's your opinion. I'm pretty sure Kobe was pushed around and had a horrible series against Boston in 2007, guess he's not the Lakers MVP then, yes?

Pushed around to the tune of numbers that were pretty much identical to the finals winning MVP. And it was 2008. Guess who was soft as and considered the main reason the Lakers went down? Yep, same guy who has reverted to his soft 2008 form today.

The true value of a player is not exclusive to effort, if thats the case Kobe would still not be the most valuable piece in that regards. Pau's value exceeds that of any player wearing a Lakers uniform at this point, he's not the best player but he's that constant balance that puts the Lakers on top, to me that's a good indicator of a players worth. When Gasol puts the hammer down, the Lakers are extremely hard to deal with.

Thank for describing EXACTLY why Pau is not the MVP of the Lakers. He's one of several players on the Lakers that when he plays well puts them over the top. He's the Lakers 2nd best player and most definetly Kobe's 1b due to his skill set and consistency. With Pau it's always been about effort. We saw a tenacious effort from him the last two seasonsans and it put us over the top for two ships. I have yet to hear a fan or player deny Pau's importance to the last two ships with Kobe being his largest supporter of all. But just as you give him credit for taking em over the top, you can take it away. The soft vagina Pau of 2008 has returned and it's costing the Lakers big. That it is, is not a valid reason to call him the MVP. Certainly, a critical piece, but MVP's dont need to be motivated to not be punked! He quits on himself before any fans do.

Andrew and Odom are also players who when they play very well take the Lakers over the top and make them difficult to beat. Though Drew has shown glimpses of promise this season to finding some consistency, until he does he will always have some degree of that Lamar syndrome of unfulfilled talent. Hopefully his injury issues will diminish and well get to see what hes got. Lamar had his most consistent year as a Laker and could seriously be considered for this years Laker MVP. Team MVP over the run? Not close.

We all know who the MVP of the Lakers is. Does he have several guys playing alongside him with high skill levels that on any given night could be the Laker star? Absolutely. Have they done so throughout the recent 3 trips to the finals? Yep. Each has had their moments and no les would have been won without them. But one alone on this team has brought it day in and day out. (Fish does as well but but were talking MVP here) Only one has consistently put up league MVP numbers over a decade. Redgardless of the polarizing opinions of him there is no mistaking his work ethic or the fact that he shoulders the focus from the opponents on a scale no other Laker could even try to imagine. That is the reason he is the MVP of the Lakers and honestly, anyone saying different is either a hater or well, just not being honest with themselves.

[Giuseppe]

Redgardless of the polarizing opinions of him there is no mistaking his work ethic or the fact that he shoulders the focus from the opponents on a scale no other Laker could even try to imagine. That is the reason he is the MVP of the Lakers and honestly, anyone saying different is either a hater or well, just not being honest with themselves.

Cobby

[Koolaid_Man]

Pushed around to the tune of numbers that were pretty much identical to the finals winning MVP. And it was 2008. Guess who was soft as and considered the main reason the Lakers went down? Yep, same guy who has reverted to his soft 2008 form today.



Thank for describing EXACTLY why Pau is not the MVP of the Lakers. He's one of several players on the Lakers that when he plays well puts them over the top. He's the Lakers 2nd best player and most definetly Kobe's 1b due to his skill set and consistency. With Pau it's always been about effort. We saw a tenacious effort from him the last two seasonsans and it put us over the top for two ships. I have yet to hear a fan or player deny Pau's importance to the last two ships with Kobe being his largest supporter of all. But just as you give him credit for taking em over the top, you can take it away. The soft vagina Pau of 2008 has returned and it's costing the Lakers big. That it is, is not a valid reason to call him the MVP. Certainly, a critical piece, but MVP's dont need to be motivated to not be punked! He quits on himself before any fans do.

Andrew and Odom are also players who when they play very well take the Lakers over the top and make them difficult to beat. Though Drew has shown glimpses of promise this season to finding some consistency, until he does he will always have some degree of that Lamar syndrome of unfulfilled talent. Hopefully his injury issues will diminish and well get to see what hes got. Lamar had his most consistent year as a Laker and could seriously be considered for this years Laker MVP. Team MVP over the run? Not close.

We all know who the MVP of the Lakers is. Does he have several guys playing alongside him with high skill levels that on any given night could be the Laker star? Absolutely. Have they done so throughout the recent 3 trips to the finals? Yep. Each has had their moments and no les would have been won without them. But one alone on this team has brought it day in and day out. (Fish does as well but but were talking MVP here) Redgardless of the polarizing opinions of him there is no mistaking his work ethic or the fact that he shoulders the focus from the opponents on a scale no other Laker could even try to imagine. That is the reason he is the MVP of the Lakers and honestly, anyone saying different is either a hater or well, just not being honest with themselves.

^ this

[da_suns_fan]

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe him in.

The constant? Kobe.

Except the le that Daddy won without Kobe. And the trip to the finals Daddy made in 95 before Kobe was in the league.

How is Kobe the "constant"?

[Budkin]

basically ... dude has tucked his tail and ran off ...... and people still talk about the trade with MEM... Lakers got rid of Kwame but damn Baby Gasol is beasting

You guys got two les out of that trade though.

[da_suns_fan]

If the Lakers dont want Gasol, we'll gladly take him.

[Giuseppe]

If the Lakers dont want Gasol, we'll gladly take him.

& I wouldn't mind giving him to you, but, you have nothing to send back.

[BRHornet45]

Gasol is the single reason why the Lakers won their last two championships. say what you want Laker fans, but its the damn truth. Kobe "The Glorified Tracy McGrady" Bryant could never win anything without a big man holding his hand every step of the way.

[Giuseppe]

Gasol is the single reason why the Lakers won their last two championships. say what you want Laker fans, but its the damn truth.

Gasol couldn't even win a playoff game till Kobe took him in.

[cobbler]

Gasol is the single reason why the Lakers won their last two championships. say what you want Laker fans, but its the damn truth. Kobe "The Glorified Tracy McGrady" Bryant could never win anything without a big man holding his hand every step of the way.

Says the guy with the bull carpet munching syndrome.

[Ghazi]

and Ghazi I got a Bacon head wrap comin your way homie....

‎"shhhhhhh" -Dirk Nowitzki 5/4/11, Staples Center