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I would love to have gotten Dorell two years ago when it would have cost nothing.
we'd have to give up Blair for it to have a chance
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3cthqob
I would love to have gotten Dorell two years ago when it would have cost nothing.
Now that the Spurs have Wallace, Batum is available for the right price. They're looking for a PG since Miller is old and his contract expiring. Spurs should make an offer that centered around Hill.
Link?
If Hedo can be moved with his play and contract, anyone can be moved. By anyone, I mean anyone. That means any other player in the NBA. In other words, all players can be moved. All. Every. One. Of. Them. Did I say all of them?
I have to agree with Mr. DPG on this one.
I obviously have no basis for saying this, but I always feel like teams are not interested in any trade the Spurs propose. I feel like a lot of it has to do with; how highly respected our scouting is(was), and how we rarely(Well, RJ/Bonner) make mistakes in free agency & the trade market. It seems like if we offer a package for a player then that team knows that they have a talented piece on their hands.
Yes, but doesn't the main spurs forum become one big think tank in the off season anyways?
Parker and Bonner for Steve Nash and Gortat.
We all hate Bonner and he sucks balls. Parker cheated on his hot as wife with his teammates (former teammate?) hot as wife so loyalty is out of the cards here.
Gortat averaged 10pts 8reb 1block and 56%. In the last 5 games of the season he averaged 18 points and 10 rebounds! Stevie Nash is old but who gives a crap, we have 1 year left to win a ring. He averaged 15 and 11 and makes everyone around him better.
Oh yeah, the Suns hate the Spurs with a passion so it aint gonna happen lol
Last edited by Russo21; 05-02-2011 at 08:53 PM.
Darko and Beasley for Bonner and RJ.
Beasley career 35% 3 point shooter which isnt bad. Career average 16 and 6.
Darko 9pts 5reb 2blocks and is massive.
Be interesting to go back to tall ball
C 7'0 275lbs Darko
PF 6'11 260lbs Timmy
SF 6'10 235 Beasley
SG Manu
PG Tony
Pretty tall beastly lineup. But who am i kidding nobody would take Bonner and RJ off our hands!!
I was thinking of this exact trade yesterday but can't get over the defensive liability of Nash.Parker and Bonner for Steve Nash and Gortat.
We all hate Bonner and he sucks balls. Parker cheated on his hot as wife with his teammates (former teammate?) hot as wife so loyalty is out of the cards here.
Gortat averaged 10pts 8reb 1block and 56%. In the last 5 games of the season he averaged 18 points and 10 rebounds! Stevie Nash is old but who gives a crap, we have 1 year left to win a ring. He averaged 15 and 11 and makes everyone around him better.
Oh yeah, the Suns hate the Spurs with a passion so it aint gonna happen lol
Doesn't cut it. Hedo is more than enough to refute you.
Will the Spurs trade Jefferson this summer?
If not, will it be because they still like him and don't want to trade him?
The spurs issues are in the frontcourt. That is it. They are okay in the backcourt, but they seriously need to draft/trade/sign for a solid 6-10 big that can help facilitate locking down the paint better against the larger frontcourts in the league. The offense is going to struggle with someone like that out there. But the biggest flaw of the teams make up was the lack of interior defense. Sure the spurs could score, but in the memphis series, the spurs had to work extremely hard to get there shots where as the grizzlies not so much. And that was do to the help inside the paint.
I think with the current squad minus one or two players that could be shipped out for caliber inside defender could make their chances better in the post season. The spurs backcourt is still fine and it seems that there is an abundance of replaceable talent in the 2 guard position.
Really depends on the front office whether they want to tweak and run with the current squad or look into the draft or trade for something. If there is a good quality mold player that can fit into the spurs plans they can make a run at them. But after close to week passing by now from the series lost. I just don't see a lot of options with the current squad unless the squad is blown up a little bit to adjust to a earlier molded mind set of defense.
So much for the spurs front office being the best in the association.
RJ 4 years 39 million? For that total piece of ? Why the did they resign him when he clearly didn't fit.
you Pop RC and Peter. Hope you get rid of that worlthless trash
Jefferson is absolutely moveable. There is no such thing as an unmovable contract; it's been proven many times. It will be difficult and they may need to swap him for another team's problem, but it's definitely doable.
The Spurs should offer Jefferson for Casspi
Why the Kings would do it: If they strike out in free agency with all of their cap space (which is likely) and gaping hole at SF, they may get desperate. Jefferson is at least a name to sell to their fans and he'd be an upgrade on what they currently have at SF. He'd also add a professional, veteran example for their immature young players, as well as upgrade their three-point shooting. Casspi has fallen out of favor and wants out.
Potential hangup/deal breaker: Garcia's contract.
This isn't about what type of fit Casspi would be; this is about flexibility, as well as gaining a decent young asset. And it could setup a trade for a starting caliber big. Instead of having to use Anderson as an additional asset to McDyess' partially guaranteed contract, Blair and either this year's 1st or a future 1st, they could throw in Casspi.
That may be enough to acquire Varejao. He's not ideal, because he's similar to Splitter (which means he'd be redundant) and despite what his inflated listing suggests, he's more like 6-10 250, but he may be the best the Spurs can realistically do. And adding him to Duncan and Splitter would instantly give them one of the best defensive front courts in the league.
If they can pull that off, then Battier makes sense as a stop gap at SF. He's not as good a defender as his reputation suggests, but he's still better than anyone the Spurs have had on the wing since Bowen.
That would leave the Spurs with . . .
Varejao/Bonner
Battier/Anderson
Duncan/Splitter
Ginobili/Neal
Parker/Hill
That would leave the Spurs with three sg's and one pg. They would still need a back up point guard. Hill is NOT that guy.
Not necessary with an SG like Ginobili. They have four guards capable of handling the ball some and making plays (even though Hill and Neal can only make plays for themselves).
Next Year:
Rj contract 9.3mil
Casspi contract 1.3mil
Are you telling me they are going to pay 8mil more for a guy that might not even be as good as the one they have. You pitch Rj like he is going to bring a lot of interest from fans, he is not.
He may be movable but it wouldn't be deal like this. It would be us taking a bad contract back. If Spurs were capable of doing the deal you proposed they would no longer be interested in Varejao and his terrible contract.
The Kings have the most cap space in the league and down the stretch used Garcia/Greene as their SF combo. When they inevitably swing and miss on anyone credible in free agency, they'll be left with overpaying mediocrity (like the Nets did last off season). Jefferson is no different than that, he'd just come in the form of a trade and not a free agent signing. He wouldn't "bring a lot of interest from fans", but he's an established name to sell to their fans, so that they can pretend they did something worthwhile.
Obviously there's no guarantee they'd do this. I even said, they might insist on the Spurs taking Garcia, but I don't think this is out of the realm of possibilities, either. If the Spurs are capable of doing the deal I proposed, then it gives them the financial flexibility to add Varejao or someone of that ilk without dramatically increasing payroll in the next few seasons. In fact, Varejao makes less than Jefferson.
I'm not big on Varejao (I saw him as a better fit before Splitter came over), but he and Okur are probably the best the Spurs can realistically do. As weak defensively as the front line has been in recent seasons, if you add Varejao to Duncan and Splitter, it would instantly become one of the best in the league. They still wouldn't have a big, wide bodied type, but the Bynum's and Gasol's (Marc) of the world don't grow on trees.
The alternative is going with the four rotation bigs under contract and trying to sign a Foster or Mohammed or Collins to serve as the fifth and to play ahead of Blair against the bigger teams.
Great idea but I don't think the bucks want him back after his first tour of duty there.
Might have to give up Tony to make this one work with Milwauke.
Andrew Bogut, Brandon Jennings, Corey Maggette
for
Tony Parker, Richard Jefferson and Matt Boner
Get a fantastic big who idolised Timmy growing up and would have no problem in our system, we both from melbourne australia! Maggette the spurs wanted a few years ago and instead we got roger mason jr, maggette would be big upgrade over jefferson. Sad to let tony go but the bucks get a superstar point guard and we get a potential all star point in jennings in return.
Bogut
Duncan
Maggette
Manu
Jennings
No holes in that lineup anywhere. Get that deal done guys!! I'd love Bogut to play for SA
OK How about this one:
Minnesota gets:
Jefferson
Blair
Spurs get:
Randolph
Pekovic
Ridnour
I think this helps us more than the trade machine thinks...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3o3l5oa
Not sure if serious ^
(Talking about the Bogut trade)
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