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    He'd obviously be an excellent pickup. But the reality is, the Spurs more than likely don't have the assets to acquire him via sign-and-trade (even if the Nuggets accepted a package of McDyess's partially guaranteed contract, Blair, Anderson and either this year's 1st or a future 1st, the salaries wouldn't match, which means a third team would have to be pulled in to help facilitate the trade and what assets would the Spurs have left to entice that third team, without gutting their team?). That means they'd have to sign him outright. Financially, that's doable, if they waive McDyess instead of trading his contract and convince Duncan to opt out and sign a one year deal for $15 million, in addition to pulling off a trade such as Jefferson for Casspi.

    The thing about Nene, though, besides him being injury prone and somewhat dependent on athleticism while closing in on 30 is, despite what his physique may suggest, he's not a good rebounder or shot blocker. He's actually more of a skilled, offensive type. Still, I'd prefer him over Varejao, Kaman, Biedrins, Okur, Blatche, etc.
    what do you think about joel pryzbilla?

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    He'd obviously be an excellent pickup. But the reality is, the Spurs more than likely don't have the assets to acquire him via sign-and-trade (even if the Nuggets accepted a package of McDyess's partially guaranteed contract, Blair, Anderson and either this year's 1st or a future 1st, the salaries wouldn't match, which means a third team would have to be pulled in to help facilitate the trade and what assets would the Spurs have left to entice that third team, without gutting their team?).
    Not necessarily true. Numbers could work because (per Sham) a package of RJ/Hill/Blair would fetch you nearly 12M. Nene is slated to make $11.6M next year, so a long-term deal starting at around that amount could work. Spurs can always toss Dice's $5.2M contract in there as well. The threshold issues are (1) the CBA cap figure; (2) whether Nene is bluffing about opting out; and (3) if faced with the prospect of Nene walking for nothing, are Hill, Blair, and te s of RJ enough to compel the Nuggets.

    I think at this point, Spurs need an offensive-minded post threat first and foremost. These playoffs showed that guard penetration & kick out isn't sustainable, and that the Spurs really need a post presence that can draw attention down low. Nene is that type of offensive player. Other players cable of drawing that type of attention from defenses, in my book, are Brook Lopez, Al Jefferson and Roy Hibbert.

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    Not necessarily true. Numbers could work because (per Sham) a package of RJ/Hill/Blair would fetch you nearly 12M. Nene is slated to make $11.6M next year, so a long-term deal starting at around that amount could work. Spurs can always toss Dice's $5.2M contract in there as well. The threshold issues are (1) the CBA cap figure; (2) whether Nene is bluffing about opting out; and (3) if faced with the prospect of Nene walking for nothing, are Hill, Blair, and te s of RJ enough to compel the Nuggets.

    I think at this point, Spurs need an offensive-minded post threat first and foremost. These playoffs showed that guard penetration & kick out isn't sustainable, and that the Spurs really need a post presence that can draw attention down low. Nene is that type of offensive player. Other players cable of drawing that type of attention from defenses, in my book, are Brook Lopez, Al Jefferson and Roy Hibbert.
    Pryzbilla turns 32 this year, but he may as well be 37. When healthy, he's still useful in short bursts, because of his size, rebounding, shot blocking and his ability to guard the bigger centers straight up. He'd be a decent fifth big, presuming the Spurs can't acquire the top three big they desperately need.

    I'm talking about what the Nuggets would realistically want. If they're going to trade Nene, it's not going to be for an aging, declining, overpaid player, who plays a position they're already set at.

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    Pryzbilla turns 32 this year, but he may as well be 37. When healthy, he's still useful in short bursts, because of his size, rebounding, shot blocking and his ability to guard the bigger centers straight up. He'd be a decent fifth big, presuming the Spurs can't acquire the top three big they desperately need.

    I'm talking about what the Nuggets would realistically want. If they're going to trade Nene, it's not going to be for an aging, declining, overpaid player, who plays a position they're already set at.
    I agree with you: moving RJ (anywhere) is going to be tough. With Chandler and Gallinari, your point that their 3 needs is met is well raised (though, I'm not too familiar with Gallinari's game to be sure). In my offseason musing, I just wonder how serious Nene is about his threat to opt out, and if Hill/Blair (and possibly Dice's K for cap space) would be enough talent in return to entice the Nugs. RJ would be needed to make the numbers work.

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    lol to mean

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    You sure they're not Portuguese?
    Or trannies given Brazils inclination for them
    Now we're on a subject you're obviously comfortable with.

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