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  1. #26
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    Honestly, unless Howard is traded to LA I dunno if he goes there. Why join an aging Kobe and constantly fight him?

    Why wouldn't he join a Paul/Deron Williams instead?

  2. #27
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    The NBA isn't the same as it was with Shaq/Kobe. It's weaker. Dwight/Kobe is more than enough theoretically.

    Dwight took a cast to the finals. His cast has gotten worse.

  3. #28
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    I agree but Kobe is still a step above any shooter Dwight has played with. He still has the catch and shoot and still is clutch in my opinion. Its not showing much in the Mavs series but Kobe still has some left in the tank.
    You are talking about a 1st round exit to the Hawks. He needs more than a step above.

  4. #29
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    The NBA isn't the same as it was with Shaq/Kobe. It's weaker. Dwight/Kobe is more than enough theoretically.

    Dwight took a cast to the finals. His cast has gotten worse.
    Either way, it's good to be having LA trade talks this early in the playoffs.

  5. #30
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    You are talking about a 1st round exit to the Hawks. He needs more than a step above.
    Dwight was in the Finals two years ago. He hasn't even hit his prime yet.

    This discussion is moot if Phil Jackson isn't back as the LA coach. No one will able able to handle the nutjob that is Kobe and Lakers will not win without Phil.

  6. #31
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    no, besides Kobe Bynum and Fisher he the only one who has shown up this playoffs. trade Pau or bynum if you can get Howard.
    Magic won't trade Howard. They will do everything they can to convince him to stay past next year. Yeah trade him for Odom and some ty draft picks. who cares Odom is not a big time player.. Better off getting nothing in return but taking the risk of getting Howard to stay.. Magic fans will boycott the arena if he is traded..

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    He ain't Jordan, yes. But, he has that tired old bag beat 5-4.
    Rob Horry has them all beat...

  8. #33
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    Rob Horry has them all beat...
    Fine. You take Horry.

    I'm staying with:::

    Kobe: 5

    Duncan: 4

  9. #34
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    Fine. You take Horry.

    I'm staying with:::

    Kobe: 5

    Duncan: 4
    Kobe with Phil Jackson & Shaq/Gasol: 5

    Kobe with no Phil Jackson and no Shaq/Gasol: 0

    The Constant? Phil Jackson.

  10. #35
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    Kobe with Phil Jackson & Shaq/Gasol: 5

    Kobe with no Phil Jackson and no Shaq/Gasol: 0

    The Constant? Phil Jackson.
    Fine. You take that one.

    I'm sticking with:::

    Kobe: 5

    Duncan: 4

  11. #36
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    Lamar had a great game 3 ...... wouldn't trade him. Lakers just need to sure up that bench because they are getting nothing from The HoneyBees .......




  12. #37
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  13. #38
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    Kobe: 5

    Duncan: 4

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    Thank you, Tim Duncan! peskypesky's Avatar
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    Horry 7
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    Kobe: 5

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    You can't compare Robins with Batmans . . .

  16. #41
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    All I know is the Lakers need to trade Fisher (again) while he still has some value.
    I'd also trade Blake, Barnes, and Brown, and Gasol. Keep Bynum and Odom.

  17. #42
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    All I know is the Lakers need to trade Fisher (again) while he still has some value.
    I'd also trade Blake, Barnes, and Brown, and Gasol. Keep Bynum and Odom.
    Unless there is a real time chasm that can't be healed with this Gasol business we should hold still and sustain this roster. I'd like to see a confirmation of the corpse before I'd turn it loose. Sure, adjustments can and should be made, but, nothing even close to major.

  18. #43
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    Magic won't trade Howard. They will do everything they can to convince him to stay past next year. Yeah trade him for Odom and some ty draft picks. who cares Odom is not a big time player.. Better off getting nothing in return but taking the risk of getting Howard to stay.. Magic fans will boycott the arena if he is traded..
    Lol...you crazy if you think Orlando will take the risk of being the next cleveland. Orlando is gonna follow denvers strategy.

  19. #44
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    Unless there is a real time chasm that can't be healed with this Gasol business we should hold still and sustain this roster. I'd like to see a confirmation of the corpse before I'd turn it loose. Sure, adjustments can and should be made, but, nothing even close to major.
    You want to keep the killer B's? They're nice trade bait. As for jobs that are safe, Kobe, Odom, Bynum, even though Bynum is such a gamble, it might be wise to drop him before his knee blows for good. Gasol and Fish, I don't know.
    You don't want to keep bodies that are done around too long. Plus PJ's going.
    The team might need a revamping for that reason alone.

  20. #45
    I'm all out of bubble gum Crytek's Avatar
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    So, the guy's basis for writing that is none...

    I'm gonna tweet "No one wants to trade Kobe. But at a certain point, you don't have a choice."
    In that case, you really don't have a choice. He has a no-trade clause in his contract.

  21. #46
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    You want to keep the killer B's? They're nice trade bait. As for jobs that are safe, Kobe, Odom, Bynum, even though Bynum is such a gamble, it might be wise to drop him before his knee blows for good. Gasol and Fish, I don't know.
    You don't want to keep bodies that are done around too long. Plus PJ's going.
    The team might need a revamping for that reason alone.
    A rebuild is going to take longer than postponing it a year. We're already set. Perhaps a new shuffle of playoff seeding, injuries to other teams, timing would be wisest. We can tinker with the bottom half of the roster, but, I still lament changing out Vuj.

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    Lol...you crazy if you think Orlando will take the risk of being the next cleveland. Orlando is gonna follow denvers strategy.
    How many young talented players does LA have to trade? Other than the one who'd have to ok the trade for it to be done? Orlando would be in the same situation New Jersey was in when they knew Carmelo wouldn't sign the extension and thus couldn't trade for him.

  23. #48
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    A rebuild is going to take longer than postponing it a year. We're already set. Perhaps a new shuffle of playoff seeding, injuries to other teams, timing would be wisest. We can tinker with the bottom half of the roster, but, I still lament changing out Vuj.
    I'd probably trade out Artest as well. But I get what you're saying, really
    the only two positions where you can upgrade is pg and sf. At the other
    positions you're only going to get equal value or less. So, the Deron/CP3
    argument makes sense, as for sf, who would be good?

  24. #49
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    I'd probably trade out Artest as well. But I get what you're saying, really
    the only two positions where you can upgrade is pg and sf. At the other
    positions you're only going to get equal value or less. So, the Deron/CP3
    argument makes sense, as for sf, who would be good?
    We can't trade Artest without pissing off Odom. That was deal when those two signed together. They're a matched set.

    It's delicate because you have Kobe chomping on the bit watching his biological clock ticking down. He's going to dictate this off season. & God help us if he isn't judicious.

    They deserve (en masse) another shot.

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