For all of you all out there calling for Pop's head, just STFU. The man is a proven winner, he treats his players like grown men, puts together winning seasons and numerous playoff runs, gives back to the community, and is generally respected around the league. He doesn't owe you a damn thing, he does his job and does it well. You can't win them all and you can't put all of the owness on one person. We got beat by a better Grizz team and it is what it is. You don't blow it all up because we got beat in the first round. You examine what went wrong and adjust and our FO will do just that. There are teams that have been bottom-dwellers for years that would be happy to be in the position we are in. The Spurs will be back and will be strong, because of the character that Pop instills in his players and because of the foundation that was laid down by selfless men, like Tim and David Robinson. Notice that when McDyess was interviewed, he said he that the first-round exit hurt, but he wouldn't change a thing about where he ended up. He loved his stay in San Antonio because, apparently, he was treated with respect and given a chance to build upon something greater. THAT'S what the Spurs is all about. So take your lumps and move on.
2nd place is no better than last place. There are only two results in the NBA. You either win it all or you don't.
So, what have you done for me lately?
2008,2009,2010,2011...
Pop needs to GTFO .....NOW!
Haha you guys are cute with this talk. Keep it going on. Last is not the same as second, actually. In many respects, it is different.
let's just pretend Pop didn't luck into coaching Duncan and Drob
Why pretend? Pop gives his players praise. There is no need for pretending.
He actually didn't. Dave (and Sean and AJ) asked him to save them from Mr. Arrogance in a Suit, Bob Hill, and he obliged.
While I respect what you're saying and agree to a large extent. the reason most people including myself think it's time for Pop to go is because the man is simply not the mastermind he used to be. For the past couple of years he has seemed tired, uninterested and ready to retire. It's like he's just going through the motions. Every once in a while you'll see the old Pop kick in and it's exciting when it happens but then he goes back into hibernation and you can almost visualize him putting his clipboard down and pulling a blanket over his head while he naps on the sideline. No one can deny that Pop has been a kick-ass coach and the reason this franchise has been the success it has become, but even Jerry Sloan reached the point when he didn't want to do the job anymore. It just feels as though Pop can't admit that he's probably at the same point, but because he said he'd retire when Tim did I guess his stubborness means he will keep punching the clock until Duncan calls it quits. Unfortunately, it's unfair to Duncan to have a half-assed coach at the helm until then, and that's the bone of contention.
I have mad respect for Pop and what he's done, but the more he drags the team down with him on his way to retirement, the quicker I want him gone.
He's not going anywhere until Tim either says so or retires. You people need to accept that, because it's a fact. It's like ing because the Sun's yellow. That's not likely to change anytime soon, either.
You know what I've realized this post-season, listening to the other coaches? I'm really, really sick of Pop's ing interviews. It used to be kind of... not cute, not charming, but something. As in, "He may be an asshole, but he's OUR asshole." Like that.
Now? I'm really sick of listening to him. I didn't realize it so much, until I started listening to other coaches who really try to answer questions. And even when they are stupid questions, it turns out that there is no reason to talk to them like idiots. The other guys actually talk about how their strategy might change in the second half, or what adjustments they made as the game progressed. Something more than, "We made more baskets than them." Pop is starting to feel like an in-law who stays more than a couple of days. I've heard his act, and it's not fun anymore.
He would have to have some serious post-season success before I could get back to overlooking his nasty routine.
Edit: One more thing. The Griz were out in front of the Spurs' plays for the whole series. They were in the passing lanes. They knew where the next pass was going. If the game is a chess match (like Pop treats it) Lionel Hollins was one move ahead. I was at the one game the Spurs won in the series, and it was never so apparent that the coaching was part of the reason for the loss. I don't like saying it, but it's true.
Hey the SUN can be called ORANGE TOO damnit![]()
some of you clowns are still living in the past and his reputation of 4 rings...
at the end of the day its all about wat have you done for me lately
this right here
doesnt matter how you lose if your a loser your a loser and thats what pop has become comfortable with
It took you this long to realize Pop is an asshole? Or if you will, "an asshole's asshole" ... lol
Here's the problem... for the past 4 years everybody but Pop has been examining "what went wrong"
Anyone with half a brain could see Matt Bonner was soft in 2008 and people (on this forum, including myself) called for his removal from the rotation (or the team preferably). Yet here we are 3 ing years later and this soft ginger is still in Pop's rotation.
Actually, at the end of the day it's about who Tim wants as his coach. Continue your little "I hate Popovich" circle jerk, though. I'm sure it will accomplish your goals of getting him removed.
hopefully, the ownership group isn't that short sighted. The fact is the Spurs ticket sales have been declining in part to the economy and in part to the team's performance.
As fickle as San Antonio fans are (proof in the amount of bandwagon Lakers, Longhorn and Cowboys fans), the Spurs need to become successful enough again to maintain and improve ticket sales. Spurs haven't been in the top 10 for attendance in a while - like they were in 2001 thru 2007.
Even if the ownership group intends to sell the franchise at some point, they need it as healthy as possible by putting out a good product. There needs to be a change in the FO and that should include Pop. Duncan's not the same player as he was, but the effort's there. I'm not sure that's true about Pop.
Here's a simply one word explanation for why Popovich is washed up: Bonner.
I think Pop is missing that senior assistant coach like Hank Egan (1994-2001) and P.J. Carlessimo (2002-2007). There was a different level of respect, age-wise and experience-wise, that Pop appeared to give to those guys.
This is smart, I hadnt thought about that. Good point.
Its not like this ship is sinking as fast as most would like to make it. We just posted a 60-win season, gentlemen. No, the ultimate goal was not reached. But, you don't go about business by clearing the cupboard out. Thats not how anybody operates. Some adjustments need be made, yes, but pinning all of this on Popovich is unfair and it doesn't serve the team well to make him a scapegoat. We'll see how it goes, but its crazy to me that some of you SPURS FANS are dissing Pop like this. He's put rings on fingers, y'all. Don't discredit him, just because he worked with Tim Duncan. Any coach who had Tim Duncan would have built around him. The two have respect for each other and buy into the same methodology; it is the character of the Spurs that acts like glue, holding the team together. For a long time the Spurs have done things the "right way", playing tough defense, preaching team-dynamics, emphasizing efficiency and selfless play. We have gotten away from that, but that doesn't mean you start dismantling the FO. Its an embarassing exit, but we can learn from it. Thats what we'll do. Let critics say whatever they want to say about us being too old, our legacy ending, shadow setting on the days of glory, etc. I could give a tiny rats ass about that . I'm betting the guys in the locker-room don't buy into that hype
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