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You're trying too hard. The Spurs are about to lose to an 8th seed, no amount of Kobe blasting can save you from that harsh reality. Enjoy pissing into the wind, though
Kobe is well known as one of the clutchest players of all time, and to an extent, it is deserved. He has shown repeatedly to nail difficult shots at the end of close games, but what do the numbers say during the clutchest of the clutch moments?
From 2008 to 2010, the Lakers played in 4 elimination games:
2008 Game 6 vs. the Celtics - Lakers lost.
Kobe shot 7/22 for 22 points, had 3 rebounds, 1 assist, 4 TO. The second best performer on that team was Lamar Odom, with 14pts (2/8 shooting, 10 rebs and 5 asts
2009 Game 7 vs. the Rockets - Lakers won.
Kobe shot 4/12 for 14 points, had 7 rebounds, 5 asts, 1 TO. Pau Gasol had 21 (10 for 19), 18 rebounds and 1 assist.
2010 Game 6 vs. the Celtics - Lakers won.
Kobe shot 9/19 for 26 points, 11 rebs, 3 asts, 2 TOs. Pau Gasol had 17/13 and 9 on 6/14 shooting.
2010 Game 7 vs. the Celtics - Lakers won.
Kobe shot 6/24 for 23 points, 15 rebs, 2 asts, 4TOs. Pau Gasol had 19/18/4 on 6/16 shooting.
Overall, in 4 elimination games over the last 3 years (when the Lakers became relevant with Kobe as their clear-cut leader), Kobe has shot 38% from the field for 21.25 points (way below average), 9 rebounds (way above average, 2.75 asts (way below average), and 2.75 TOs (slightly below average).
Another side note is that in those 4 games, the Lakers only lost came when the 2nd best player on the team did not have a good game (Game 6 vs. the Celtics).
Even more interesting is that in those four games, the only lost came when the Lakers shot about the same amount of FTs than the other team (38 FTAs vs. 37 FTAs, or 3% more FTA than the other team).
In the other 3 games, the Lakers outshot the Rockets 18 to 14 (29% more FTAs), the Celtics 19 to 10 (90%), and again the Celtics 37 to 17 (118%) at the FT line when the Lakers usually shoot between 15 to 20% more FTs than the oppositions in the regular season throughout the year. I guess you can say the Lakers just know when to become aggressive in the game.
EDIT: Listed Game 7 instead of Game 6 in 2008 vs. the Celtics. Apparently the biggest error on this thread that people can nitpick on. Not really sure why nobody is responding on how Kobe has played poorly in almost all elimination games, and how the Lakers can only win elimination games when they have a significant advantage at the FT line.
Last edited by ambchang; 04-26-2011 at 03:20 PM.
You're trying too hard. The Spurs are about to lose to an 8th seed, no amount of Kobe blasting can save you from that harsh reality. Enjoy pissing into the wind, though
I was actually looking up the numbers yesterday, just didn't have time to post until now. It's sad that the Spurs are doing horribly against an 8th seed, but I really fail to see that topic would relate to Kobe performing poorly in elimination games when he is being the clear cut leader on a fantastic team.
I am thinking of looking at critical games as well (like Game 3 when the series is tied 1-1, Game 5 at 2-2, whenever the Lakers trail and such). Aren't many of those games, not too hard to look up.
How crutch is Kobe?
He's the leading scorer AND distributor on a 2-time defending champion...even if I wanted to make a case against him being the clear-cut leader, that simple fact would derail my argument.
B-b-b-but Pau Gasol is the leader and the best player
lol kobe obsession
I really need to get my eyes checked...thought this le read How Crutch is Kobe?
ing Kobe choked in Game 7 in 2008? I missed that game.
He has made clutch shots in his careers
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Where's the darn Facebook Like button when you need it?
Kobe is so bad, he can't even perform when the NBA gives him an extra chance to beat the Celtics.
Epic signature is epic
Lakaluva?
crutch sounds right
Kobe is clutch enough, not to lose, as a #1 seed to a #8 seed ... just saying.
Another elimination game, another stinker.
Kobe went 7 for 18, had 3 reb, 1asst, 5 TOs.
This brought his shooting average to an abysmal 35%, averageing 7.8 rebounds (impressive for a SG), 2.4 (slightly below average for an average shooting guard, not so great for the main offensive focus and facilitator for your team), and 3.2 TO (average).
Also, no other Laker had a good game to speak of, and the Lakers lost as a result.
The Lakers also outshot the Mavs from the FT line slightly, but they still got blown out by 36 points.
Bout time you showed up. I ain't seen you since Hollins bum rushed ya's en masse to the woodshed.
tee, hee.
grab an old bag of and put it on the court. now pass it the ball in the last minutes of the game...
Duncan.
Speaking of ... Got to take one brb
Then it means you weren't reading very carefully. I thought that with the amount of time you spend on this forum, you'd read every single post, including the ones I posted that stated the Lakers would comeback and win in 6. Oh well, I was wrong again.
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