Could Butler be back for the Finals?

**dirk4mvp** · 05-09-2011

Only in a re 's mind like you does losing an efficient 20 ppg scorer and good defender improve a team.

**Spurtacus** · 05-09-2011

Only in a re 's mind like you does losing an efficient 20 ppg scorer and good defender improve a team.

Sure, he's efficient and I would gladly take him on the Spurs team. However I still feel Memphis is better without him. Don't be surprised if he is dealt this offseason.

I'm actually laughing that you think Memphis would have swept the Spurs with him.

**Spurtacus** · 05-09-2011

Originally Posted by Tyson_Chandler

damn dude you're really ing stupid

For stating the facts? Then i guess you are really ing re ed.

**z0sa** · 05-09-2011

Originally Posted by dirk4mvp

Only in a re 's mind like you does losing an efficient 20 ppg scorer and good defender improve a team.

You still think Rudy Gay would make THIS season's playoff team better? There's a reason people are questioning whether the Mavs want Butler back. Or remember Jameer Nelson causing a stir and problems in 09 with his return? Talent thrown into the mix never guarantees success.

Gay is better than both players, but that also means his impact changes the dynamics of the Grizzlies' team even further. Considering their record following his injury as well as since gaining Battier, this season's Memphis team is probably better off without Gay IMHO. Not only has this allowed them to focus on the "team" and their D and working for the best shot and the best match-up exploitation, it's allowed ZBo to really become comfortable. Combined, the injury ends up easing the growing pains a inexperienced, talented team inevitably deals with at these early stages of their playoff future.

**mavsfan1000** · 05-09-2011

Originally Posted by dirk4mvp

Only in a re 's mind like you does losing an efficient 20 ppg scorer and good defender improve a team.

Marion>Butler as a defender and doesn't hold on to the ball too long. Same thing with Stojakovic. Butler is out of position at the 2. And Butler's defense isn't that great either. See the Spurs series. Stevenson at least knows his role and doesn't become a chucker. I will admit now that Beaubois killed our rhythm as well. So I'll take Marion's defense over Butler's and Stojakovic's efficiency over Butler's.

**dirk4mvp** · 05-09-2011

Originally Posted by z0sa

You still think Rudy Gay would make THIS season's playoff team better? There's a reason people are questioning whether the Mavs want Butler back. Or remember Jameer Nelson causing a stir and problems in 09 with his return? Talent thrown into the mix never guarantees success.

Gay is better than both players, but that also means his impact changes the dynamics of the Grizzlies' team even further. Considering their record following his injury as well as since gaining Battier, this season's Memphis team is probably better off without Gay IMHO. Not only has this allowed them to focus on the "team" and their D and working for the best shot and the best match-up exploitation, it's allowed ZBo to really become comfortable. Combined, the injury ends up easing the growing pains a inexperienced, talented team inevitably deals with at these early stages of their playoff future.

Obviously it's a bad idea for any team to interject a player back into the rotation coming back from injury if they have a good thing going.

**Ghazi** · 05-09-2011

Devin Harris

**dirk4mvp** · 05-09-2011

Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

Marion>Butler as a defender and doesn't hold on to the ball too long. Same thing with Stojakovic. Butler is out of position at the 2. And Butler's defense isn't that great either. See the Spurs series. Stevenson at least knows his role and doesn't become a chucker. I will admit now that Beaubois killed our rhythm as well. So I'll take Marion's defense over Butler's and Stojakovic's efficiency over Butler's.

ok.