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kori appears in yet another "my new gaming rig" thread
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Still going the route of the "internet tough guy" combined with "7th grade smack talk", I see. Some things just never change.
kori appears in yet another "my new gaming rig" thread
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you're a , get over it already !Still going the route of the "internet tough guy" combined with "7th grade smack talk", I see. Some things just never change.
it's a in' msgboard, get over yourself.
hadn't come into this forum yet, turns out i recently built a rig too. Maybe I'll take pics when I get home.
I'm a little surprised at a couple of things though, so I'll ask...
1) Do you OC for fun or performance? Because with that kind of hardware there is no immediate performance need, IMO
2) Why not a higher clockspeed on the memory? 1866+ memory is cheap and the motherboard supports it, does this have something to do with OC?
Personally, I find that OCing is not worth it unless you have old hardware that can't handle the task. Ive seen too many shiny new super systems hobbled / made unstable from OC, to the point where you end up playing with the bios more than the games (booting in under 10 seconds comes pretty handy at that point though
As far as SLI/crossfire, the price/performance ratio is pretty bad because they dont scale that well, its only really worth it when you can pick up a cheap 2nd card; but due to the power requirements and scaling issues, i think its preferable to sell the old card and get a new one. SLI certified PSU's dont guarantee compatibility because not all vid cards consume the same amount of power; even the same chipset card can have factory OC that changes the power drawn from the card. Also, some PSU's have fake certification and load/efficiency can make the same PSU work under some situation but not others (a friend has a SLI setup that requires 2 extra HD to be plugged in for it to work, take them out and the PSU's efficiency dips and you cant enable SLI even though the second card still appears in device manager)
Finally, I'm a little surprised to see you and CH went for AMD vid cards. The savings are marginal but Nvidia cards have more features (Physx, CUDA, better AA support). The only things that AMD cards really beat them on is multi display support and power consumption/thermal footprint. I hate to come off as a fan boy but the only time I had an AMD card it was very disappointing to have such limited support from developers (I remember not being able to get AA in several unreal engine games, missing out on Physx in batman Arkham asylum and the water effects in Just cause 2). I have a 23" on the desk for FPS and a 42" next to it for everything else, until they make screens without bezels mutli display setups are not for me, hence I prefer nvidia.
I'll see about getting pictures up, but my specs are:
core i5 2500
mem 8gb corsair pc 18666
hd: raid 0 3 x 1 tb sata3 (seagate drives)
mobo: asus p67 sabertooth
vid: gtx 275 (the only survivor of the last build, plan on getting a 560 or 570 next month)
case: antec p183 w/ CP 850 PSU
The HAF is a nice case if you plan on going SLI but since I dont plan on it I prefer the P183's ultra quiet, living room friendly design. Its got a front door that covers the drive bays and power button which can be locked (I have two toddlers so this is a great feature), no funny lights or windows, filters on all the air intakes, as close to silent as can be. The cable management is a bit of a pain compared to the HAF but once done it gets good temps.
The PSU is kind of overkill for my setup but because I have lots of drives and plan on getting a Fermi card, I preferred to have more than less. The CP 850 was a good deal packaged with the case, as its a PSU format exclusive to antec cases. Here in Chile selection is poor and prices are higher, so any little savings helps, especially on a high end equipment like this.
He went for an ASUS GTX 570 video card... look at the link...
The last Nvidia card I had (8800 GTS) burnt out on me. 3 of my friends had the same exact card and every one of them died the same way. Nvidia refused to cover it. I don't understand how getting one bad card equates to ATI = bad. The 8800 was a seriously deficient video card, I haven't seen any kind of failure rates in ATI boards, and price/performance ATI is as good/better than Nvidia across the board. PhysX is overrated, as is Cuda... how many games actively use those? "Better AA support"? Subjective, considering every modern video card is created to use AA at extremely high levels.hadn't come into this forum yet, turns out i recently built a rig too. Maybe I'll take pics when I get home.
I'm a little surprised at a couple of things though, so I'll ask...
1) Do you OC for fun or performance? Because with that kind of hardware there is no immediate performance need, IMO
2) Why not a higher clockspeed on the memory? 1866+ memory is cheap and the motherboard supports it, does this have something to do with OC?
Personally, I find that OCing is not worth it unless you have old hardware that can't handle the task. Ive seen too many shiny new super systems hobbled / made unstable from OC, to the point where you end up playing with the bios more than the games (booting in under 10 seconds comes pretty handy at that point though
As far as SLI/crossfire, the price/performance ratio is pretty bad because they dont scale that well, its only really worth it when you can pick up a cheap 2nd card; but due to the power requirements and scaling issues, i think its preferable to sell the old card and get a new one. SLI certified PSU's dont guarantee compatibility because not all vid cards consume the same amount of power; even the same chipset card can have factory OC that changes the power drawn from the card. Also, some PSU's have fake certification and load/efficiency can make the same PSU work under some situation but not others (a friend has a SLI setup that requires 2 extra HD to be plugged in for it to work, take them out and the PSU's efficiency dips and you cant enable SLI even though the second card still appears in device manager)
Finally, I'm a little surprised to see you and CH went for AMD vid cards. The savings are marginal but Nvidia cards have more features (Physx, CUDA, better AA support). The only things that AMD cards really beat them on is multi display support and power consumption/thermal footprint. I hate to come off as a fan boy but the only time I had an AMD card it was very disappointing to have such limited support from developers (I remember not being able to get AA in several unreal engine games, missing out on Physx in batman Arkham asylum and the water effects in Just cause 2). I have a 23" on the desk for FPS and a 42" next to it for everything else, until they make screens without bezels mutli display setups are not for me, hence I prefer nvidia.
I'll see about getting pictures up, but my specs are:
core i5 2500
mem 8gb corsair pc 18666
hd: raid 0 3 x 1 tb sata3 (seagate drives)
mobo: asus p67 sabertooth
vid: gtx 275 (the only survivor of the last build, plan on getting a 560 or 570 next month)
case: antec p183 w/ CP 850 PSU
The HAF is a nice case if you plan on going SLI but since I dont plan on it I prefer the P183's ultra quiet, living room friendly design. Its got a front door that covers the drive bays and power button which can be locked (I have two toddlers so this is a great feature), no funny lights or windows, filters on all the air intakes, as close to silent as can be. The cable management is a bit of a pain compared to the HAF but once done it gets good temps.
The PSU is kind of overkill for my setup but because I have lots of drives and plan on getting a Fermi card, I preferred to have more than less. The CP 850 was a good deal packaged with the case, as its a PSU format exclusive to antec cases. Here in Chile selection is poor and prices are higher, so any little savings helps, especially on a high end equipment like this.
The HAF makes almost no noise at all, I love the case. 2x200 mm fans... they are whisper quiet, man. I'd rather have a tiny amount of noise and get the best cooling possible. Being able to hear my computer when the house is completely silent is a small price to pay for keeping my parts cool.
I've personally had bad luck with ATI. Two X1300 died on me in a row, within 6 months... never had an issue with NVidia...
Cuda is actually used quite a bit, just not necessarily by games. If you're running a hackintosh, Grand Central on the OS will recognize Cuba-able cards and just add the GPU as just another general purpose computing core. That means every program can use it even if you're not writing Cuda-aware programs.
Programs like the latest Photoshop also have Cuda acceleration on them, and the speedup on most filter raster ops is quite noticeable, especially if you're using high-end floating point raw imagery, which most good DSLR produce nowadays.
I'm pretty sure ATI will have it's own form of Cuda sooner or later, and wouldn't be surprised if Win8 comes with built-in generic support a la OSX.
[QUOTE]I was just playing around with ASUS's Smart Doctor software, which provides relatively hassle free overclocking. I'm in no way equipped to do a manual overclock of either the GPU or CPU. As it stands, I run the GPU and CPU at stock speeds.
As for the RAM, the deal was good, and from what I've read, the difference between say 1333mhz and 1600mhz RAM is negligible when gaming.
Wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the info.As far as SLI/crossfire, the price/performance ratio is pretty bad because they dont scale that well, its only really worth it when you can pick up a cheap 2nd card; but due to the power requirements and scaling issues, i think its preferable to sell the old card and get a new one. SLI certified PSU's dont guarantee compatibility because not all vid cards consume the same amount of power; even the same chipset card can have factory OC that changes the power drawn from the card. Also, some PSU's have fake certification and load/efficiency can make the same PSU work under some situation but not others (a friend has a SLI setup that requires 2 extra HD to be plugged in for it to work, take them out and the PSU's efficiency dips and you cant enable SLI even though the second card still appears in device manager)
I went with a GTX 570.Finally, I'm a little surprised to see you and CH went for AMD vid cards. The savings are marginal but Nvidia cards have more features (Physx, CUDA, better AA support). The only things that AMD cards really beat them on is multi display support and power consumption/thermal footprint. I hate to come off as a fan boy but the only time I had an AMD card it was very disappointing to have such limited support from developers (I remember not being able to get AA in several unreal engine games, missing out on Physx in batman Arkham asylum and the water effects in Just cause 2). I have a 23" on the desk for FPS and a 42" next to it for everything else, until they make screens without bezels mutli display setups are not for me, hence I prefer nvidia.
Nice build.I'll see about getting pictures up, but my specs are:
core i5 2500
mem 8gb corsair pc 18666
hd: raid 0 3 x 1 tb sata3 (seagate drives)
mobo: asus p67 sabertooth
vid: gtx 275 (the only survivor of the last build, plan on getting a 560 or 570 next month)
case: antec p183 w/ CP 850 PSU
No complaints whatsoever about this case. Love it. And as CH said, it's very quiet. About PS3 slim quiet.The HAF is a nice case if you plan on going SLI but since I dont plan on it I prefer the P183's ultra quiet, living room friendly design. Its got a front door that covers the drive bays and power button which can be locked (I have two toddlers so this is a great feature), no funny lights or windows, filters on all the air intakes, as close to silent as can be. The cable management is a bit of a pain compared to the HAF but once done it gets good temps.
ah I skimmed through and thought that was also an AMD, the board design just looked more like one, sorry about that.
Agree to disagree Cry, I guess it comes down to what games you play. For the short time I had a Radeon, the games that I was playing at the time had better support from Nvidia. AFAIK Batman Arkham Asylum never got AA support from ATI, not to mention the Physx effects which were pretty cool (that's the reason I splurge on a vid card, eye candy. If over 60fps, I'll choose eyecandy over an extra 5-10-50 fps). I remember also that Bioshock and some other UE3 games it was difficult to get AA working, requiring changing engine files and editing .ini 's- I can do that stuff, but I'd rather play the actual games than around with settings. For better or worse nvidia spends more time/money with developers so that their cards get more support, to me that is worth something. Maybe AMD are better now, but I remember getting the nvidia card to replace it and the picture quality of several of the games i was playing improved. CUDA isnt huge, but if you do photo/video editing it helps. Still, it's a tech that actually lets you use that huge GPU you have in there, again to me that is a good thing.
yeah I know the mem speed doesnt make a huge difference but generally there is little to no price difference, thats why it struck me as odd.
Wasnt knocking the HAF, I had one myself its a nice case, roomy and very cool. I especially like the drive mounting systems. But with all the fans and intakes, after 6 months or so it will get noisy- not lawnmower noisy, but more than a design made to be quiet. I checked the link and I had the 932, that had 3 230mm fans, so maybe that was a little louder than the 922 you guys have. Its a style choice, especially if you have SLI/OC/a lot of components you'd prefer a cooler case, and if you are willing to maintain the fans regularly or replace them frequently (as in 1-2 times a year) there isnt as much difference. But if you don't run that hot and prefer sleekness (in look and sound), there are nice alternatives. I have the PC in the family room and use it as much for games as I do watching movies, and thats when I appreciate a quieter setup with less lights to put books in front of
Didn't get around to taking pics, my wife bought a laptop and asked me to set it up for her, and tonight I'm going to the pub for the celtics heat game so maybe tomorrow.
I run Battlefield Bad Company 2 on max detail @ 1080p. Every little piece of eye candy turned on. No slowdown. It's incredible.
This is because Bioshock, while being a great game, was not coded particularly well. For many moons after it came out, a lot of players had severe mouse lag, in the 50+ ms range, which is just unacceptable for a game with FPS elements. Don't fault ATI here, it wasn't their doing. If their cards had so much trouble handling AA, you wouldn't see any top tier les that were running well on them, which is just not the case. Crysis and Crysis 2 both run on max detail as well.I remember also that Bioshock and some other UE3 games it was difficult to get AA working, requiring changing engine files and editing .ini 's- I can do that stuff, but I'd rather play the actual games than around with settings.
Agree to disagree. I'm pretty sure that if you saw BC2 on my system you'd change your mind a bit. Maybe not.For better or worse nvidia spends more time/money with developers so that their cards get more support, to me that is worth something. Maybe AMD are better now, but I remember getting the nvidia card to replace it and the picture quality of several of the games i was playing improved.
I'll take the 2GB of RAM that the 6950 has over the 1.2 GB that the GTX570 has. Obviously the 570 is a little faster, but at higher resolutions the 800 megs of RAM is going to make a difference down the road.yeah I know the mem speed doesnt make a huge difference but generally there is little to no price difference, thats why it struck me as odd.
I don't plan to replace the fans for at least a couple years. There are tons of reviews on the case at Newegg, no one mentions the problems you bring up. Strange.Its a style choice, especially if you have SLI/OC/a lot of components you'd prefer a cooler case, and if you are willing to maintain the fans regularly or replace them frequently (as in 1-2 times a year) there isnt as much difference.
I've done the sleek thing. It got old after a while. I wanted a case that made it clear that there was some serious hardware under the hood, so I went with the HAF -- incidentally one of the highest rated PC cases on the market.But if you don't run that hot and prefer sleekness (in look and sound), there are nice alternatives. I have the PC in the family room and use it as much for games as I do watching movies, and thats when I appreciate a quieter setup with less lights to put books in front of
Didn't get around to taking pics, my wife bought a laptop and asked me to set it up for her, and tonight I'm going to the pub for the celtics heat game so maybe tomorrow.
Ok, got those pics up, not the best lighting but you can appreciate the style of the case (i picked up a 560 and took the pics after putting it in)
the bottom area looks a little untidy but most of those cables are against the back panel, I chose to put the hard drives there to keep the main system components and vid card on their own; there is an intake fan on the front blowing on the drives, and the PSU has fans on both ends so that bottom area has 3 fans pushing air from the front to the back.
the main area has an intake on the top and another blowing out the back
under the TV you can see the old mammoth 275, that thing was at least 1.5" bigger than the new card...
oh and Cry, maybe there is less dust in your environment but here its pretty rare for a fan to stay quiet unless you clean it (even worse when you smoke like I do). Filters help quite a lot in keeping the components dust free.
Dang, uncluttered case. You only have one drive? I think I have 4 shoehorned in mine, but I am more about media storage and conversion than performance these days.
Nice setup, although that desk looks a bit cramped.
I'll throw up some more as soon as I get my new monitor here. Can't wait. Going for 120hz.
Just an update on what I was talking earlier about Cuda:
KGPU: Enables CUDA programs to be run from the linux kernel
That case and mobo look great, BTW... any idea how much power that thing draws in general?
there are 3 hard drives in the bottom drive cage, with room for one more, and the empty space next to the video card is for another drive cage which has room for 2 but I removed it since I dont use it.
not sure about the power draw, but I figure around 650-700w (I had a 600w PSU that wouldnt post with this setup, but a 750 did so it has to be between there)
Part of the desk clutter is because I had just put in the new video card, part because the PC is in the family room and everyone uses it! I also only moved recently so I still have to settle in, I only got the tv table the day before taking those pics and it didnt have the locks put on the doors, once they are installed some stuff will go in there.
My completed setup. I don't plan to add anything else to it until I decide to crossfire my 6950s.
The new display (the monitor on the right) is an Asus VG236HE 120hz. It is absolutely incredible. Never thought there would be a tangible difference between 60hz and 120hz, but it's as plain as day when I'm switching back and forth. I highly recommend the Asus. It's gorgeous, although if you're in a bright room, don't go for it, as it's a highly reflective screen.
who is this girl??.....Seriously, Kat does what she does as well as anyone-suck,ass and happily take to the face. One comment about the stunt who I`ve seen referred to on this site as "homeless-looking". He invariably does a good job in all his scenes..underrated,stays hard, doesn`t talk throughout, and always s.But in the end, lets enjoy Kat.....forever 19.
No one asked, but here is my setup I have for my home office - work on the right, PC on the left. The IKEA Galant desk is just perfect for me. A buddy of mine has one in a dark finish, but I couldn't pass up the $40 price difference with the white melamine. I still have room for a longer extension on the right too. And yes, it's messy but my daughter says it's her office at night
how much you bought ur table for? im looking for one like that...glass...
My completed setup. I don't plan to add anything else to it until I decide to crossfire my 6950s.
The new display (the monitor on the right) is an Asus VG236HE 120hz. It is absolutely incredible. Never thought there would be a tangible difference between 60hz and 120hz, but it's as plain as day when I'm switching back and forth. I highly recommend the Asus. It's gorgeous, although if you're in a bright room, don't go for it, as it's a highly reflective screen.
previous workplace had something like that
$200 shipped from amazon.
That is a nice desk CH, I can't deal with glass tabletops tho (or keyboard trays). That and it would make me really nervous with my daughter around. She's responsible but less glass surfaces the better
Yeah, maybe not the best, but I will say that the glass is pretty damn thick and it's tempered. I dropped one half of it on the ground while holding the other side by accident and it didn't even make a sound like glass when it hit. No scratch or crack, either.
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