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    "Every penny, 100 percent of the donations are applied to the Freedom Alliance scholarship fund," Hannity has claimed.
    [Lt. Col. Oliver] North has made similar statements, remarking, "There's no overhead. There's no expenses taken out. Every penny that's donated or that's raised through things like the Freedom Concerts goes to the scholarship fund." (A giant "Thank you! Sean Hannity" currently appears on Freedom Alliance's homepage.)
    http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/03/...eedom-alliance
    Why is it I cannot find those quotes anywhere but in liberal propaganda.

    Source quote please. Mother Jones and others don't link the source.

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    How would you know the expenses since Scammity refuses to reveal them? Yet another sign of a fake charity.

    From Schlussels article: "with Hannity and Premiere refusing to disclose the financial records of the concerts."
    Isn't this enough:

    IRS form 990 for 2009

    Look guys. I understand. You don't like Hannity, so you're acting like the first grade bully.

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    That's not the intent of the OP, and yes, people can also directly donate without going to a concert.
    Fwiw WC, thanks for pointing out similar operating expenses for other charities.

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    are you saying that hannity didn't make it clear that $100 donation is really $8.00?

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    Fwiw WC, thanks for pointing out similar operating expenses for other charities.
    I'll second that. WC backed up his bs somewhat. You can't say the same for most of his detractors in this thread.

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    WC just doing the repugs dirty work. It helps to have the useful idiots on your side.

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    LOL @ the notion that routine partisan bickering in ST subforums amounts to "dirty work"

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    Why is it I cannot find those quotes anywhere but in liberal propaganda.

    Source quote please. Mother Jones and others don't link the source.
    You mean the source in the OP who is the source that mother jones used: Debbie Schlussel?

    ...who is also a conservative blogger

    ...who used the same tax forms you cited to base her opinion that Hannity is a fraud


    She used an anonymous source(s) to make her claim about Hannity's statements and she never provided a copy of the letter she said went out to the donors stating that 100% of their donations would go to the recipients.

    Looking again, this blog is over a year old and nothing has come of it since. There's obviously no real proof that Hannity and Freedom Alliance are scamming anyone. Not really sure why the OP thought this was a relevant issue in 2011.

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    You mean the source in the OP who is the source that mother jones used: Debbie Schlussel?
    No.

    Are you ignorant by accident or design?

    The two things I quoted in post #52. The words Hannity and North said. I would like to see those quotes in context.

    Words matter.

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    Fwiw WC, thanks for pointing out similar operating expenses for other charities.
    Few charities get any meaningful amount of money to the end users.

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    Fwiw WC, thanks for pointing out similar operating expenses for other charities.
    yeah, thanks for pointing out similar charities

    mouse, can you embed these two YouTubes within the url below of a man who looked at the exact tax forms that Freedom Alliance used and he compared them to a very similar charity, Operation Gra ude.
    Cost of mailing a package?
    Freedom Scammers: $3.51 per
    Operation Gra ude: $0.07 per

    Salaries
    Freedom Scammers has at least 3 people on salary.
    2008 for example:
    175K per year Thomas P. Killgamon
    107K per year Delores Wilgenbrunch
    100K per year Jennifer Pestere (sp)

    No doubt that is of great comfort to the Detroit area soldier and Wild CobraTroll, the Detroit man who had two limbs blown off but Scammity and co gave a heartfelt 200 bucks to.


    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/20965...-concert-scam/

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    Few charities get any meaningful amount of money to the end users.
    Well that *liberal blogger* <fabricated by you, she is actually a conservative blogger, Debbie Schlussel writes:

    Keep in mind that a charity is considered reputable if no more than 25% of its revenue goes to expenses and no less than 75% of it goes to the intended charity recipients. Given that, Freedom Alliance’s balance sheets are embarrassing in their shamelessness.

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    No.

    Are you ignorant by accident or design?

    The two things I quoted in post #52. The words Hannity and North said. I would like to see those quotes in context.
    Are you illiterate by accident or because of butthurt?

    Words matter.
    Apparently not the ones I directed towards you.

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    Are you illiterate by accident or because of butthurt?



    Apparently not the ones I directed towards you.
    All I'm asking for is the source of those words attributed to North and Hannity.

    Isn't there a YouTube, transcript, or something else to confirm the words she says they spoke? Maybe you'll have better luck. I couldn't find them in any search engine searches I did, except for material on this topic linking back to her.

    Maybe she made it up?

    Maybe you should put up, or shut up.

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    Isn't there a YouTube
    YouTubes could be edited...

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    Isn't there a YouTube,
    yes, here are two:

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/20965...-concert-scam/

    Wild Cobra
    Isn't this enough:

    IRS form 990 for 2009
    Lets hear from you after viewing the YouTube which completely exposes 2008s.

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    YouTubes could be edited...
    We can't make ASSumptions.

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    Another waste of time.

    Where are the quotes attributed to Hannity and North?

    Are you too ing stupid to understand my request?

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    All I'm asking for is the source of those words attributed to North and Hannity.

    Isn't there a YouTube, transcript, or something else to confirm the words she says they spoke? Maybe you'll have better luck. I couldn't find them in any search engine searches I did, except for material on this topic linking back to her.

    Maybe she made it up?

    Maybe you should put up, or shut up.
    I told you she has provided nothing in a year to back up her claim to what she says Hannity said.

    Even if she was telling the truth, she did a poor job at backing it up.

    I agree with you that there's really not much that would suggest hannity had done anything wrong. I think the way you have come to your conclusion is rather stupid though.

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    I agree with you that there's really not much that would suggest hannity had done anything wrong. I think the way you have come to your conclusion is rather stupid though.
    I only pointed out some relevant facts that dispute the OP. I never gave my methodology as to how I arrived at my conclusion.

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    Yet conservatives argue that charity should replace welfare.

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    Yet conservatives argue that charity should replace welfare.
    The overhead costs wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't a portion after making a concert style show. If one makes a charity that relies on minimal advertisement, those who want to support the poor can, and it will probably be in the 90's percent or more efficient.

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    I only pointed out some relevant facts that dispute the OP. I never gave my methodology as to how I arrived at my conclusion.
    That's because there is no methodology. You just talk out of your ass, per the usual.

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    Why not print only 8% goes to charity on the ticket, then see how many show up .
    and since 2011.....
    Mr. Nardizzi who now heads Wounded Warriors (after booting out the original founder), who was given $473,000 in compensation in 2014.

    In 2014, the Wounded Warrior Project lobbied in California and Florida to fight proposed laws that would have required increased financial transparency of nonprofit groups. Both bills passed in amended forms that did not significantly affect the Wounded Warrior Project, Mr. Nardizzi said.
    Also around that time, the group hired the global public relations firm Edelman, which has represented Starbucks, Walmart, S and Philip Morris, to improve public perception of the charity and its overhead spending. (Notice it does not say to improve how they spend)

    Former employees said they questioned the charity’s focus on money and marketing techniques. Erick Millette, an Iraq veteran, said he quit after growing disillusioned about his work with a program called Warrior Speak, which involved veterans’ telling their stories of healing to audiences. The veterans collected donations at those events.
    “I wasn’t speaking anywhere unless I was collecting a check,” said Mr. Millette, an Iraq veteran who worked for the program for about two years, until he left in 2014.
    Mr. Millette said the charity encouraged him to highlight its role in helping him recover from PTSD and traumatic brain injury. “They wanted me to say W.W.P. saved my life,” he said. “Well, they didn’t. They just took me to a Red Sox game and on a weekend retreat.”

    The spending began to attract attention. Charity Watch, an independent monitoring group, gave Wounded Warrior Project a “D” rating in 2011 and has not given it a grade higher than C since.

    More: Wounded Warrior Project Spends Lavishly on Itself, Ex-Employees Say

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wou...cid=spartandhp

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    "About 40 percent of the (wwp) organization’s donations in 2014 were spent on its overhead, or about $124 million"



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