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    Nice setup Cry, the HAF certainly works better when it is under the desk. I'm not much of a fan of glass desks for mostly the same reason as Leemajors (kids, what they dont break they dirty), but it looks like a very comfortable setup.

    oh, remember this-
    For better or worse nvidia spends more time/money with developers so that their cards get more support, to me that is worth something. Maybe AMD are better now, but I remember getting the nvidia card to replace it and the picture quality of several of the games i was playing improved.
    I am self quoting because I read this interview today from John Carmack:
    PCG: If you were to buy a graphics card right now, what would you get?

    John Carmack: Let me caution this by saying that this is not necessarily a benchmarked result. We’ve had closer relationships with Nvidia over the years, and my systems have had Nvidia cards in them for generations. We have more personal ties with Nvidia. As I understand it, ATI/AMD cards are winning a lot of the benchmarks right now for when you straight-out make synthetic benchmarks for things like that, but our games do get more hands-on polish time on the Nvidia side of things.

    Nvidia does have a stronger dev-relations team. I can always drop an email for an obscure question. So its more of a socio-cultural decision there rather than a raw “Which hardware is better.” Although that does feed back into it, when you’ve got the dev-relation team that is deeply intertwined with the development studio. That tends to make your hardware, in some cases, come out better than what it truly is, because it’s got more of the software side behind it.
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    No one asked, but here is my setup I have for my home office - work on the right, PC on the left. The IKEA Galant desk is just perfect for me. A buddy of mine has one in a dark finish, but I couldn't pass up the $40 price difference with the white melamine. I still have room for a longer extension on the right too. And yes, it's messy but my daughter says it's her office at night

    Is that a UT diploma? What was your major?

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    Is that a UT diploma? What was your major?
    English

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    That is a nice desk CH, I can't deal with glass tabletops tho (or keyboard trays). That and it would make me really nervous with my daughter around. She's responsible but less glass surfaces the better
    Honestly, I just hated how much cleaning they took. So much more than a regular desk to look clean.

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    Honestly, I just hated how much cleaning they took. So much more than a regular desk to look clean.
    The problem with buying a "regular" desk is that they are typically much heavier, more expensive, and bersome to assemble/disassemble. The main thing though, is the space. Most corner desks I've seen have just enough room for one monitor, and I knew I was buying at least one additional display. I saw photos of this desk with dual monitors and it still had extra room, so I pulled the trigger. Looks nicer than the photo suggests, as it's a bit blurry. Not bad for $199 and about 35 minutes of assembly.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Yeah I agree that real desks are more expensive. I'd love to have a nice real solid wood desk but seeing as I plan on being mobile over the next few years thats not going to happen. I had a glass desk before and the pluses you mentioned are true but I also remember thinking I needed stock in Windex.

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    Sure, if you don't want to expand your system and you absolutely abhor keeping the case cool. I mean, why the do you need a small desktop anyway? Do you carry it with you to bed and plug it in like a laptop? I put my desktop under my computer desk and leave it there. It doesn't move. The computer desk has enough room for it, so what, exactly, is wrong with a larger case?

    I haven't had any problem with overheating. a little when I overclocked just to see how hot it could get, but without overclocking my cheap i3 and 6850 can play Starcraft 2, Portal 2, or whatever at max settings, 1920x1080.

    so what is the the need for space and dual video cards? I can upgrade to another card easily when the time comes that I actually need it for something.

    IMO, in an elegant desk setup, the tower is not seen, especially those hideous "gamer" towers with their windows and LEDs... gross

    chip technology is getting smaller and smaller, cooler and cooler, there's no need for the common gamer to stick with these behemoth cases, that is so '90s, or early 2000s, or whatever

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    I'm going through a similar, albeit more budget conscious, build right now.

    So far this is what I have:

    AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition ($82)

    8 GB Corsair XMS memory 4x2 ($60)

    650W PSU - 780 max 650 stable($40)

    AM3 m-atx 890GX MoBo ($100)

    80GB Intel 320 SSD ($160)

    So far all of that has me at just under 450 dollars and I'd like to stay under 800 if possible.

    I'm probably going to go with a 6850 ($150) since it seems like it gives the best bang for the buck and I'm leaning towards a rosewill armor case because I'll be able to get it for around $50 and it comes with 6 pre installed fans. Cooling is a big issue for me since I try to run my AC as little as possible and quite honestly it gets hot in my apt. Don't want to add heat to an already hot case.

    I'm going to try to cannibalize a friends old HDD of around 250 gigs for general storage. The 80 gigs the SSD brings should be plenty for the OS, a couple games, and any other information I want to access with greater speeds.

    Any thoughts/suggestions?

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    sound good and the price is not bad for all you've bought

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    Thanks.

    I should be receiving the final components via mail sometime during the middle of the week. After everything is said and done I will have spent about $700. In hindsight, even though it was something I really wanted because of the OS boot up times, by leaving the SSD out I could have made it an even better deal.

    I can hybrid crossfire the radeon 6850 with the integrated graphics card on the MoBo and I should be able to OC the CPU to about 3.8 Ghz safely.

    Building a PC from scratch was extremely rewarding and fun. I plan on building a replacement computer for my moms computer sometime next month as well... but that shouldn't cost her more than $200.

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    These aren't the droids you're looking for jman3000's Avatar
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    Came out pretty nice if I do say so myself. Boot time from the moment I hit the power button to navigating Windows is about 15 seconds.

    The red led's are a bit gaudy, but they can be turned off easily enough from a button on the top of the case.

    Also installed an all in one media reader in the 3.5" bay and it's been extremely convenient for me.

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    I used to build my own and did for years until it became too much of a hassle returning memory or power supplies due to early failure.

    I order online now.

    CH, that's a nice setup you have. Have you ever considered getting bigger monitors that mount on the wall instead of on your desk? I was going to go with two 40" Samsungs since I do a lot of work from my home office, but my friend says his are an eye strain after a while. What do you think?

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    Why are you guys still buying magnetic harddrives? SSD is where it's at.

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    $200 shipped from amazon.
    ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? I have that same exact desk that I bought from Big Lots for $99 and it's a little bigger than that.

    TDM, if you want that desk, go to Big Lots, or Ill just sell you mines for $60. It's in my storage.

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    These aren't the droids you're looking for jman3000's Avatar
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    Why are you guys still buying magnetic harddrives? SSD is where it's at.
    I have an 80 gig intel 320 and to be honest they are great for OS, games, and other programs that you want to open in a hurry, but IMO they just aren't worth it to store miscellaneous things just yet. Price per gig it's just dumb to get a SSD for things that a normal HDD will open a millisecond later.

    Plus the failure rate in the new technology is much higher than in normal HDD. That's why I went with the slightly more expensive intel brand because the others had failure rates that were almost 1%.

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    Plus the failure rate in the new technology is much higher than in normal HDD. That's why I went with the slightly more expensive intel brand because the others had failure rates that were almost 1%.
    I'll have to disagree with you there. The failure rate is dramatically reduced because there aren't any moving parts within a SSD. It's all flash memory and will last 5 times longer than a HDD.

    I do agree that the price per gig is expensive though but that's why you should store everything on an external HDD anyway. Keep as much as possible off of the main drive and your computer will stay fast.

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    It may not have any moving parts, but it's still considered an emerging technology and thus haven't been perfected just yet. I did a lot of research when considering drives and I read waaaaay too many pissed off people who were burned by OCZ, Kingston, and Crucial brand SDD's.

    If it can get to where it's about 4 times the price per gig of a HDD then I'd say make everything SDD... but as it stands a 750 gig sdd is about the price of a house payment whereas a similar HDD is a nice dinner out.

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    yeh the intel ssd is the one to get if you have the money, they dont fck up as usual like the other brands

    as for magnetic hdd, lol they are for storage man, i need to get a 3tb drives......

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    Added another monitor and it's really bad ass. Especially with hydra.

    Might have to go for the trifecta.



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    woot!

    Z68 mini-itx motherboards hitting the marketplace!

    not sure if I should get the Zotac now or wait for a few more choices and reviews

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    Present setup. Loving it.

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    that's just begging for a third monitor tbh

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    that's just begging for a third monitor tbh
    Maybe when I SLI my 6950s I'll get a 3rd. For now I'm happy with two... most of the games I play these days don't benefit from 2/3 monitor setups, and most of the top end games are demanding ENOUGH to play on one screen as it is, esp. considering the main display runs at 120hz/120fps

    I DO have a Logitech Driving Force GT, so when I get a good PC racing game... mmmm... might have to change that.

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    Maybe when I SLI my 6950s I'll get a 3rd. For now I'm happy with two... most of the games I play these days don't benefit from 2/3 monitor setups, and most of the top end games are demanding ENOUGH to play on one screen as it is, esp. considering the main display runs at 120hz/120fps

    I DO have a Logitech Driving Force GT, so when I get a good PC racing game... mmmm... might have to change that.
    f1 pc u , get that

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