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    Each Day Offers Potential Darrin's Avatar
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    IMHO, people are making too much out of this MOVIE. I watched it and like it for the entertainment value....and Natalie Portman.
    Amen. Portman is an incredible actress and gorgeous, even bald. That's impressive.

    The argument of it being "a matter of perspective" where terrorism is concerned is only slightly younger than terrorism itself. Imagine what are history books would say about George Washington if we were still a colony in the British empire. I'm not saying that Washington killing British soldiers in the Apalacian winters is comparable to destroying the World Trade Center, but Great Britain would probably see that differently.

    It's actually working the Bush mantra of the "ends justifying the means," and taking it to an extreme. Are certain acts immoral even if the cause is just? If anything, the terrorist character can be related more to Bush than to bin Ladin, if it has a contemporary message. Asking that question would have to assume that Bin Ladin's cause is just, and I don't think anyone says that.

    But while you are talking about the amazing Natalie Portman, let's not forget that she was born in Israel, where the themes of this movie have very little to do with September 11th and the War on Terror.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    To Kill A Mockingbird was just a movie too. So was The Wizard of Oz. So where any other movies that came from books that had hardcore political messages.

    BTW, The Wizard Of Oz is a political movie.

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    I found the plot a bit cheesy. Characters were not too complex and the atmosphere of repressed freedom was not conveyed too realistically.

    Reading politics into every movie is ridiculous. But then again some say King Kong is about black people.

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    I found the plot a bit cheesy. Characters were not too complex and the atmosphere of repressed freedom was not conveyed too realistically.

    Reading politics into every movie is ridiculous. But then again some say King Kong is about black people.
    It was a graphic novel before it was a film, it's not supposed to be entirely realistic. And the movie is political whether you think movies should be political or not. The film is based on a graphic novel about government - it's political.

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    It was a graphic novel before it was a film, it's not supposed to be entirely realistic. And the movie is political whether you think movies should be political or not. The film is based on a graphic novel about government - it's political.
    Well duh. But you can read politics into every movie ever made is the point I was trying to make.

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    Well duh. But you can read politics into every movie ever made is the point I was trying to make.
    Except that you made it while simultaneously calling a graphic novel "unrealistic". Anyways, it might be ridiculous to read politics into every movie, but it's an irrelevant point on a movie that IS political.

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    My opinion, its a movie. Does it have to do with gov't? Yes. So what? It meant to entertain. It did just that.

    The fact that some people try to read politics into a lot of movies is dumb. If you want to learn about politics read a book or something. If you want to be entertained, go watch a movie.

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    8.9 out of 10

    I knew basically 0 about the movie when I entered and expected a little less, but this movie was a nice suprise. The message I got was to be intolerant of facism.

    As for reading other stuff into it, sure you can.

    X can look at a rock and thoughts of evolution and the existence of man occur.

    Y can look at a rock and see a squirrel that looks like Abe Lincoln.

    Z can look at a rock and see a rock.

    Whether it's there or intended to be there?

    That's grey. Some of the answer can depend on the creator. Sometimes part of the answer is obvious to most people. Some of the answer everybody just sees differently because they are I.

    This movie I watched and and took it at it's face. What was there was what was there, I didn't search for anything else and I didn't decide anything else was there.

    My suggestions are as follows:

    a) hold comment until you see it
    2. see it
    third - Don't buy food at the movies

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    I'm glad you liked it. I think I may go see it again.

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    I'm glad you liked it. I think I may go see it again.

    Just remember S is for Sea World.

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    Saw it at IMAX last night. A little silly at times (and not very subtle in its jabs at recent events), but overall a pretty good movie. 7.5/10.

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    I finally saw this movie. ing awesome, yo!! Every other step of the way, I laughed my ass off thinking of the incredibly smart minds that thought this movie was anti-america and anti-right.


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    Great movie tbh

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    Just bought the bluray tbh. Tpark.

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    One of the few movies I own that I have watched many times over.

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    Excellent film.

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    Just bought the bluray tbh. Tpark.
    In Tparks defense, I was a schmuck too... For what it's worth, it was one of the first films I bought on bluray.

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    How was I ever able to read threads like this and not contribute?

    I've become entirely too enthralled with the sound of my own keyboard.

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    This movie has so many incredible quotes.

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    The comic was better. joking I never finished the comic

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    The comic was better. joking I never finished the comic
    You would say something like that.

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    Ooh I have it and haven't watched it. thx for the reminder.

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    It was awesome till to many people started to like it....so now it sucks.

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    Heat? Is that a movie?

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