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  1. #51
    Abe Lincoln, NlGGA Kyle Orton's Avatar
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    Better roster and most clutch player , did you miss that Memphis vs. Kansas game?

  2. #52
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    IMO, other than the fact Miami has a two-headed punch. The Bulls have every other factor in their advantage
    gr8 point bro. If you took away Lebron and Wade, Miami wouldn't have a chance. What a solid observation.

  3. #53
    NT? more like SO i said
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    Yet, still managed to struggle against the Pacers and Hawks...
    The Bulls dominated the Pacers imho

  4. #54
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    Yet, still managed to struggle against the Pacers and Hawks...
    How did they struggle against Indiana?

    And anyway the Lakers struggled against every opponent the past 3 years. Celtics were taken to 7 games the season they won the le

  5. #55
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    Every game against Indiana went down to the wire.

  6. #56
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    Every game against Indiana went down to the wire.
    So they were tested and prevailed like Champions do

  7. #57
    Abe Lincoln, NlGGA Kyle Orton's Avatar
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    champions shouldn't be "tested" by below .500 8 seeds.

  8. #58
    NT? more like SO i said
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    i hate that argument.

    the score being close doesn't always tell the whole story. The Lakers have made a history of keeping teams in games, and then pulling away when they had to. The Bulls pretty much did that in their Indiana series. The game was close but you knew that Rose could take it to another level when it counted, while Indiana had nobody that could match him

    Just like the Bulls series, every game in the Heat series except for one, came down to the wire yet nobody really thinks that was a close series either

  9. #59
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    champions shouldn't be "tested" by below .500 8 seeds.
    MJ's Bulls ALWAYS played ''close'' games in their run

  10. #60
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    lol comparing a team that coasted for the first 3 quarters to a team clearly busting its ass to hang in their and wait for the 8 seed to choke

    I know you're anxious to prove my PG theory wrong with Rose, but it's not happening.

  11. #61
    NT? more like SO i said
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    I know you're anxious to prove my PG theory wrong with Rose, but it's not happening.
    actually i could care less, i'm not even picking Chicago in this series

  12. #62
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    MJ's Bulls ALWAYS played ''close'' games in their run
    In the 1st round against below .500 teams? Any real contender woulda put the hurt on Indiana, sweeping, and winning every game by double digits.

  13. #63
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    The "take it to the next level" argument is why the Bulls are gonna lose. They're playing at the highest level possible right now. They have no way of playing better. Like all PG oriented teams, they their PG and spam pick and rolls for 82 games to inflate their win total, then they run into a team like the Heat that has countless ways to step up when it matters. Idk how the "take it to the next level argument" applies at all to a team that spent every ounce of energy possible to win 60 games.

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    In the 1st round against below .500 teams? Any real contender woulda put the hurt on Indiana, sweeping, and winning every game by double digits.
    I don't think you know much about the Pacers

    They changed coached and started playing a completely different rotation (going with youth). The new coach had a record above .500

  15. #65
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    The "take it to the next level" argument is why the Bulls are gonna lose. They're playing at the highest level possible right now. They have no way of playing better. Like all PG oriented teams, they their PG and spam pick and rolls for 82 games to inflate their win total, then they run into a team like the Heat that has countless ways to step up when it matters. Idk how the "take it to the next level argument" applies at all to a team that spent every ounce of energy possible to win 60 games.
    Bulls have defensive studs to guard Wade & LeBron

    Heat have no one to guard Rose

  16. #66
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    trying to talk the Pacers up as a good team

    Somehow the Lakers have had no one capable of guarding athletic PGs the last two years, and have won a le both times. You don't need good individual defenders to shut PGs down in the playoffs, when it mattered LA could just switch Kobe onto Rondo/Westbrook/whatever.

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    No matter how people try to dissect this series and critique every intangible each team has, it all comes down to 2>1. Everything else cancels each other out.

    -They both play elite defense.
    -They both are getting solid contributions off the bench (Chicago's is better though)
    -They both have performed well in clutch situations in the playoffs.
    -Both teams are full of hit-or-miss offensive talent outside of Rose, Wade, and LBJ...nobody else on either team has shown to be reliable in posting consistently good #'s.

    Miami showed in games 4 and 5 why they are a step ahead of everyone else. Going into the 4th quarter of Game 5 they were shooting 44% while Boston was shooting 54%. They knew all they had to do was have Wade and James go kamikaze into the paint on every possession and one of the following would ALWAYS happen:

    -an and-1
    -shooting foul
    -kickout to a wide open 3-point shooter. Wide open is an understatement when you see the looks JJ, Bibby, and Chalmers get. They have time to take a and read the paper before shooting.

    When Chicago's offense bogged down in both series they had Derrick Rose do the same thing.

    What's the difference? Heat have 2 sure things while the Bulls have one.

    2>1.

    End of story.

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    trying to talk the Pacers up as a good team

    Somehow the Lakers have had no one capable of guarding athletic PGs the last two years, and have won a le both times. You don't need good individual defenders to shut PGs down in the playoffs, when it mattered LA could just switch Kobe onto Rondo/Westbrook/whatever.
    Are you really comparing Rose to Rondo? They are completely different players
    Remember ''Rose is Iverson''. So he's essentially Wade with passing skills

    I'm willing to bet you had no idea the Pacers even changed coaches. . .

  19. #69
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    Yeah I did actually. They changed coaches and played slightly above .500 ball the rest of the way. They're still a team a real contender should be putting away well before the end of the game in the playoffs.

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    No surprise a Knicks fan would hype 2 star players over team

    The Celtics without a healthy Rondo & Shaq are essentially the Atlanta Hawks

  21. #71
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    Star players are what win in the playoffs.

  22. #72
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    Yes, Shaq's injury is the reason the Heat won


    Shaq's last good playoff series was the 2006 ECF.

  23. #73
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    Yes, Shaq's injury is the reason the Heat won


    Shaq's last good playoff series was the 2006 ECF.
    Celtics traded Perkins at the (dumb) assumption that Shaq would be healthy

  24. #74
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    Whitlock had some beast predictions at the beginning of the playoffs, he got the final four correct! Damn!!!!

  25. #75
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    How did they struggle against Indiana?

    And anyway the Lakers struggled against every opponent the past 3 years. Celtics were taken to 7 games the season they won the le
    This isn't the Champion Celtics or Lakers. Its the overrated Bulls.

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