Shaq wouldn't have helped with Randolph at all. Zack is much more than just a post up banger. He can do that, but he can also shoot from about 18 feet, and you have to honor that because he can also put the ball on the floor and take it to the rim. Either of those last two would leave Shaq chasing shadows.
I think you will see Spurs bring in alot of 4/5 for workouts most likely wanting to pick the best of the group left with their 2nd round pick unless one of these guys blows the away. I would expect the Spurs to workout most of the following:
Keith Benson
Jamie Skeen
John Luer
Greg Smith
JaJuan Johnson
Jordan Williams
Vernon Macklin
Matt Bryan-Amaning
Nikola Vucevic
Micheal Dunigan (he seems to have matured and worked on his game since he was a lazy spoiled freshman at Oregon - has slimmed from 265 to 248 and appears to have improved his game (shot 58% at FT as freshman, 75% in 3 euro leagues this past year - probably not NBA ready but think he could contribute pretty quickly)
Jeremy Tyler (character issues but very young)
Out of that list at least 2 maybe as many as 5 should be available with Spurs pick - a few of these guys have late 1st round/early 2nd round grades - but the majority are all over the board in 2nd round to not being drafted depending on mock drafts
Last edited by JonNOKC; 06-05-2011 at 08:32 PM.
Looks like Hoopsworld, in their mock draft, now have Benson going in the first round.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/the_draft/...sp?AUTHOR_ID=2
outside of Johnson or someone unexpected falling I don't think the Spurs will go big in 1st round but could see value in some bigs that might be available with 2nd round pick.
My only concern with PG is the 1st round guys that would be available or GHill types in terms of not being natural distributors or probably not ready to play like Morris - I think there could be good value in 2nd round especially if Spurs could move up alittle - but even staying pat wouldn't be suprise if one of (Charles Jenkins, Norris Cole, Goudelock, or McCamey) are avaialble - all seniors and all from small schools except McCamey
There are far more good PFs available in this draft than PGs. Besides, the Spurs have more of a need for a big than a small. Unless either Singleton or Honeycutt slide to #29, I'm hopeful that the Spurs will take the best big available. I'd have no issue with Benson at #29.
I want Benson. I think he immediately gives us an interior defensive presence that we desperately need....that shot blocker, shot alterer....He is also a very good rebounder. I feel he, Splitter, and an in shape Blair would beast the glass. Offensively, he would be a great candidate for alley-oops and transition baskets...but he would definitely have to mature into our half-court offense. Still, working alongside Duncan and Splitter should help him improve some of the weaknesses in his offensive game. Also, I can see him bulking up his first few years in the league.
I want Benson.....too bad we can't get Benson and Hamilton in this draft....that would be my pipedream for the 2011 draft.
actually my pipedream would be to trade Tony Parker (only if trading him is what must truly be done) for both of Minnesota's first round picks....while still keeping ours.....We draft SF Williams, SG Hamilton, C/PF Benson.....with our 2nd, we draft the best PG remaining...but alas, this is merely a pipedream and has about as much chance of happening as UTSA winning the BCS National Championship this year....
C - Splitter, Benson
PF - Duncan, Blair, Bonner
SF - Williams, Jefferson, Butler
SG - Hamilton, Neal, Green
PG - Hill, Manu, Draft Pick/Quinn
Richards goes to the D-League for 1 season
Benson would be a good pick in 2nd round but don't see him falling all the way to spurs pick of 58 - but would not like at 29th - much rather get Tyler (who I think has much higher ceiling plus already has NBA type body which will give him a chance to contribute this coming year, and who I like more and more every time I see him do interview or what I saw at combined/film) or Noguiera as a stash pick
Last edited by JonNOKC; 05-25-2011 at 01:14 PM.
If we were to draft a big this year, I'd take Benson over Tyler...
I read somewhere just recently that his verticle jump/reach was 13feet. Thats high as the top of the nba backboard -which is pretty sick..
Plus benson has a nice touch on his shots to go with his length and athleticism combination.
I'm sure Nba weight trainers and dieticians can help put a bit of mass on him
Last edited by G-Dawgg; 05-31-2011 at 06:30 AM.
I too think Benson will be the better long term prospect. I just am not sold on the Spurs ability to coach up a big who does not already come ready made. Even with Blair, pop said he did not try to tell him what to do in his rookie year and when they did coach him in his second year, he became a bust.
Afterall, name the last big the Spurs drafted that was coached up and played well. You can't say Robinson or Duncan as they came ready made.
Benson is an enticing player. The one apparent weakness about him is his lack of strength. Apparently, he's been unable to hold weight, which may result in him getting pushed around in the paint.
It's interesting to note that, since the pre-draft camp, Tyler has likely played his way into the first round - according to most mock drafts. However, Benson has not made such a similar leap.
That's what I've been waiting to hear - some support for other bigs and some comparisons as to one big versus another.
One other thing that probably works in Benson's favor is maturity. Benson is a four-year senior and we all know that Pop and RC prefer more mature college players. This means that Benson is likely better equipped and could likely step in and play quicker than Tyler could.
It's an interesting comparison. I'm curious to hear more from you and others as to why Benson would be the preferred choice over Tyler?
Tyler may be the next Shaq or Olajuwon. I'd give him about 2% chance of that happening. He also may be the next Erick Dampier or Cherokee Parks. I'd give him about 35-40% chance of that happening. He'll probably end up being somewhere between the two extremes - which to me won't be worth the immaturity I'm sure that will come along when he gets his 1st NBA paycheck.
Additionally, I think the Spurs need a more athletic big man. Tyler is the heaviest of all prospects at 265 w/ limited low post game and NO defense.
Benson is a better prospect for the Spurs system but still doesn't fit the mold as he's simply to light. He'll put on weight in the next few seasons but that might be a while.
Mason Plumlee is probably more athletic than Benson and is stronger but less gifted offensively. I like his chances given that he's more likely to be available when the Spurs pick (maybe even in the 2nd round).
Splitter is the future of the Spurs front court offensive - he won't completely replace Duncan (nobody ever will) but if he's a 15 pt / 8 rbnd a game guy, then the rest of the offense can come from the PG, SG, and PF positions as it always has been: TP (if he isn't traded - then all bets are off), Anderson and Splitter. Manu should be coming off the bench to add pts as well. Given a more defensive capable SF and C, the Spurs are back to old form.
Last edited by Tyrone Jenkins; 06-02-2011 at 09:13 PM.
I think Benson in the first isn't the best value but wouldn't have a problem - IMO Tyler offers more upside but no doubt greater risk - my biggest concern is can Benson put on weight and how much - if he can't bulk up his limited defensively to being a great help side defender but not able to guard physical big men (i.e. - M.Camby) which isn't a bad thing - just thinking back to Memphis series and lack of Spurs current players to defend the post
I thought Plumlee decided not to enter draft
Haha - Yeah I have to agree with you I think Benson at our pick would be a great pick up!west virginia- 22 pts, 15 rbs, 2 blk
purdue- 16 pts, 14 rbs, 2 blk
Illinois- 11 pts, 7rbs, 2blk
Michigan state- 17pts, 7rbs, 2blk
Tenn.- 26 pts, 10rbs, 2 blk
Michigan- 11 pts, 7 rbs, 4 blk
Ohio state- 8 pts, 10 rbs, 1 blk
Texas- 15 pts, 11 rbs, 3 blk
, next time please do a little research about a player you obviously know nothing about..
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