really? who are the two quality centers? chandler maybe...who is the other one? c'mon stop making excuses for ian...he sucked...period. he wasn't a defender and he wasn't a shot blocker. get off his nuts.
They had chandler and haywood, both starters at times in their careers. No minutes for mahinmi. At pf dirk, marion, and the shooting white guy dirk called country strong, I forgot his name. Mavs were loaded with bigs, tbh. Spurs, not so much. Calling pussy bonner and midget blair, bigs is somewhat of a stretch.
Haywood....And yes, he's easily a starting center in this league. By the way, when was I on Mahinmi's nuts?
The only reason people bring him up is because at one point this team had an athletic big on the roster. A big with the potential to play better defense than Bonner or Blair ever has. No one is calling him a star, or even great, but people are so fed up with the turds we have now that they'd rather have Mahinmi at this point.
Not that it matters though. He's gone, and the Spurs have another 7-footer who needs to get off the bench.
If Mahinmi was worth ANYTHING at all...he would have been given a chance and he'd still be here. If Oberto could start for us and this guy couldn't get off the bench that tells you something. Some of yall really thing yall are smarter and a better judge of talent that guys that do this for a living and have won championships. If he was good enough to do what you all think he can or could have done, he'd be here still. Get over it.
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Why did the mavs bother signing the guy then? If he sucks so bad like you claim. Huh, popsucker?
Mahinmi was either; Not with the team, at the end of the rotation, or hurt when he was here. It was only his last year when he finally got a "chance" -- Then, by the time the season ended, Splitter was ready to come over, and the Spurs chose Splitter. Do I need to repeat it a third time?
That tells me nothing. Oberto was an established rotation player at the time. I guess with that logic you can say Bonner is a better player than Splitter since Bonner plays 20 minutes per game while Splitter warms the bench.If Oberto could start for us and this guy couldn't get off the bench that tells you something. Some of yall really thing yall are smarter and a better judge of talent that guys that do this for a living and have won championships. If he was good enough to....blah, blah, blah, I'm just repeating myself.
Don't worry, I am.Get over it.
Maybe you should since you're so hung up on needlessly proving to us that Mahinmi sucks. We get it. He isn't that great. He was only brought up as an example of someone who could've brought more defensively than what the Turd Towers bring. Understand? No one is clamoring to bring him back.
bull . if you thing he would have been the answer to interior defense than you're a moron.
Cuz they'll sign anyone dumbass. you...if you think he would have been THE answer then you're a ing moron.
if we had scola, we woul win multiple championships
You're the only one here who sounds like a moron. Not only do you not know how to read, but you're a ing liar who likes to put words into other people's mouths to suit his argument. NO ONE said he'd be, 'The Answer' -- Just better (defensively) than either of the Turd Towers.
Yes, Bonner, and Blair are WORSE than Mahinmi defensively. What games have you been watching? What don't you understand?
And again, I don't ing care about Mahinmi (like I said before, none of this matters because he's gone, and the Spurs have a better player in Splitter [but here I am debating because you misinterpret everything you read]), but if you want to debate whether he'd actually be LESS valuable to the Spurs defense than 6'7-I'd-rather-take-charges-or-not-play-defense-at-all Blair, or Matt 'Soft as Charmin' Bonner then I'll debate you on it. Just quit making up these bull claims.
Seriously....How many times, and how many different ways do I have to explain to your re ed ass that I'd only take Mahinmi over Bonner, or Mahinmi over Blair defensively?
It's more than just a running mate, the spurs need athletes. Athletic guys who can stay in front of quicker players. What good is size if it's slow footed.
Your fantasy gm skills suck much ass. Answer the question, why can't Mahimni get any playing time?
Asked and answered: Chandler and Haywood. More specifically, Chandler and Haywood's contract. Mahinmi contributed during the season, and the Mavs are very high on him, unlike the blind Pop disciples. The big joke is that the Spurs had nobody close to either of those guys playing ahead of Mahinmi when he was in San Antonio. Funny how Splitter couldn't get any time during the season considering how good he turned out to be in the playoffs. The Popsucker argument might be to somehow discount what Splitter actually is, but those folks will need to explain how Oberto, Nesterovic and Mohammed couldn't get off the bench in 2006 while the Mavericks were ripping up the Spurs' front line.
There's a reason people got excited over Pops Mensah-Bonsu when he was a Spur, and it's not because Pops is a great player, it's because the bar was, and still is, so low when it comes to Spurs' bigs. Honest to God, how the do any of you seriously attempt to continue to defend Bonner, Dice and Blair as a big rotation?
Don't know how any one could argue Bonner over Ian defensively. And offensively:
Ian
season 3.1 pts / 2.1 rebs / 0.3 blk in 8.7 mins on 56.1%FG
Bonner
season 7.3 pts / 3.6 rebs / 0.3 blk in 21.7 mins on 46.4%FG
playoffs 6.3 pts / 3.2 rebs / 0.2 blk in 20.5 mins on 48%FG
And we know that Bonner chokes in the playoffs (LOL, 45.7% 3PT% in RS, 33.3% in playoffs - a drop of 12.4%). The jury is out on Ian in the playoffs. Of course he's not playing in the playoffs - he's got Dirk, Chandler and Heywood ahead of him.
Duncan's age? He still seems to be the center piece going into next year, not a problem then. Perimeter defender? Had Bowen, Bowen got in the doghouse, Pop canned him.
Seems like this is all Pop's fault.
lol playing only because of contracts. That is seriously the weakest argument ever made.
Yeah, that whole "two starting caliber centers with veteran experience" thing was clearly too complex for you.
Your words.
Bowen's age might have had something to do with his exit and eventual retiremment. Just speculation here, but Bowen's decline, due to age, might have played a part in his feud with Pop.
Yes. Stronger, tougher, mentally strong, better shooter, rebounder, defender and just about anything else. Bonner is probably better at finding a sandwhich shop.
By people, meaning like you right? Just like your constant clamoring for Mahimni, because hes long and athletic. Since I know it is painful for you to think about it, I won't ask where exactly Mahimni is right now, but what league is Pops tearing it up at? I honestly don't know. And FYI, theres no defending Bonner, Blair, and Dice. They are what they, just likes theres no defending Mahimni and Bonsu.
So Chump, would Bonner get more minutes than Mahinmi in the mavs' frontcourt rotation?
It's certainly possible since Ian was barely ever a rotation player.
EDIT - removed pic / giving poster benefit of the doubt
But comparing Bird and Bonner makes me skeptical.
It does bring up a question...
Is there any Hall of Famer that was less athletic than Bonner?
(while they were living)
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