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    NT? more like SO i said
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    lol LakerFan thinking they could get D-Will and Howard

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    lol LakerFan thinking they could get D-Will and Howard
    Like you thinking you could get 11 & Forever!

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    lol LakerFan thinking they could get D-Will and Howard
    Walton + Blake for Wade!

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    Walton + Blake for Wade!
    Psssssssssstttt....Scola!

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    Psssssssssstttt....Scola!



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    NB:lol Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_ Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fa kers_ 21_Blessings's Avatar
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    I don't waste time replying to idiotic comments.
    So I guess you're trolling yourself by replying then.



    He's a bench player
    Not on the Spurs, he's not. He's starter on numerous NBA teams.

    Immaterial considering the Spurs would never trade Duncan.
    But he's still worth more than Duncan. Ha Ha.

    You mean 3 of the 4 best players on your team have some trade value!? This is shocking.
    Must be for you, since you denied that 2 of them had any trade value before your backpedal

    What I would like to know is how the Lakers intend to find a team who will sell out their future to have Gasol/Odom play for them for 2/3 seasons? Who are you going to find who wants THOSE contracts AND is willing to give you a top tier young guard for them?

    Again, shocking. Most teams want to be slow, old, and unathletic. Your desires are unique to the league and puts you in a unique place at the bargaining table, as no other GMs are looking for any of these traits!
    Yeah, what GM/team would want a big man capable of averaging a double double.

    As I've said before, I think the Lakers will be back, eventually. However, this notion that some fans have that retooling is as simple as forcing Orlando to trade Dwight, or getting Deron from NJ like it's just a simple snap of the fingers is hilarious. You are stacked with monster contracts that other teams are going to be extremely hesitant to deal with given the current status of the CBA.
    You must still be bitter at all the times the Lakers retooled their championship squad the past 30 years then.

    Meanwhile, back in San Antonio....

    As constructed the Lakers are probably due to be a weaker west power for the next 2-3 years... after which Kobe will probably be reduced to a role player.


    I've asked you, repeatedly, who you think the Lakers have a shot in of getting realistically, and you can't answer. I think your rage in response, rather than calmly examining the situation, is perhaps the most telling thing in this discussion.
    Well, now that you have officially backpedaled on your position regarding the Lakers trade pieces, maybe you should go back and read the thread.

    Things will become clearer after the new CBA is in place, but the Lakers have the pieces and desirability to make a run at just about any big name with uncertain team status the next 2-3 years.

    The Lakers just went to 3 out of the last 4 NBA finals. Yeah, I'm just raging about the dire straits the Lakers organization is currently stuck in.

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    Its somewhat a system problem, because as long as the triangle is being run, the PG's will have next to no flexibility and Kobe will continue to have all of the ballhandling/playmaking responsibilities. There's no point to having a decent PG if we're running the tri.

    If you're starting Derek Fisher, the triangle is fine. If you're starting Deron Williams or Chris Paul, as we plan to do in the near future, the offense needs to change to accommodate their respective talent.

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    So, Lakerfan's solution to their current problems is to trade for DWill or Chris Paul. It's going to suck for them when they realize the Spurs plan to move Bonner + Jefferson for LeBron James.

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    Its somewhat a system problem, because as long as the triangle is being run, the PG's will have next to no flexibility and Kobe will continue to have all of the ballhandling/playmaking responsibilities. There's no point to having a decent PG if we're running the tri.
    That's not true at all. You do realize Tri-sets aren't run on every offensive possession.

    If you're starting Derek Fisher, the triangle is fine. If you're starting Deron Williams or Chris Paul, as we plan to do in the near future, the offense needs to change to accommodate their respective talent.
    This is another fallacy. The Lakers won les despite Fisher. Deron and Paul would do just fine in triangle. The main difference would be more pick & roll and easy transition buckets.

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    So, Lakerfan's solution to their current problems is to trade for DWill or Chris Paul. It's going to suck for them when they realize the Spurs plan to move Bonner + Jefferson for LeBron James.
    Yeah what team would want Andrew Bynum or Pau Gasol when they could get Matt Bonner and Richard Jefferson. Great equivalence there.

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    Will is a ot, though. The only good thing is he's a Kobe ballwasher, so they'd get along.

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    Yeah what team would want Andrew Bynum or Pau Gasol when they could get Matt Bonner and Richard Jefferson. Great equivalence there.
    If you trade Bynum for Deron Williams I can only imagine what the Lakers defense will be like next year. You'll certainly score, but it won't matter if you're giving up 115 a game.

    As for Pau, yeah, the fact that you think you can trade Pau ing Gasol for Chris Paul and not see how much of a pipe dream that is is ridiculous. Yeah, NO is going to give up one of the greatest PGs in NBA history for a PF who recently forgot how to separate "girlfriend" from "playoffs".

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    Either Paul or Williams would be great on the Lakers in the tri, because they're too good not to. They'll look good anywhere under any system.

    But to maximize their talents, another system would be ideal. And with Phil gone, I wouldn't trust Shaw with the helms anyway, and it looks like the FO feels the same way. There's almost no chance they give him the job so we're looking at a near-certainty of new system implementation.

    So, Lakerfan's solution to their current problems is to trade for DWill or Chris Paul. It's going to suck for them when they realize the Spurs plan to move Bonner + Jefferson for LeBron James.
    Our last major trade was for Pau Gasol. Your's was for Jefferson. I'd say we've set enough of a standard to speculate....have you?

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    If you trade Bynum for Deron Williams I can only imagine what the Lakers defense will be like next year. You'll certainly score, but it won't matter if you're giving up 115 a game.

    As for Pau, yeah, the fact that you think you can trade Pau ing Gasol for Chris Paul and not see how much of a pipe dream that is is ridiculous. Yeah, NO is going to give up one of the greatest PGs in NBA history for a PF who recently forgot how to separate "girlfriend" from "playoffs".
    Cry......

    funnier things have happened and these "funnier" things have just about all been orchestrated by the Laker FO.....be careful what you say less it bite you in the a$$....

    ..just sayin..

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    If you trade Bynum for Deron Williams I can only imagine what the Lakers defense will be like next year. You'll certainly score, but it won't matter if you're giving up 115 a game.
    Better than the Spurs, that much is guaranteed.

    As for Pau, yeah, the fact that you think you can trade Pau ing Gasol for Chris Paul and not see how much of a pipe dream that is is ridiculous. Yeah, NO is going to give up one of the greatest PGs in NBA history for a PF who recently forgot how to separate "girlfriend" from "playoffs".
    You were just defending Pau two posts ago. Be consistent.

    What leverage does New Jersey or NOH even have? Pau Gasol would upgrade the front court of both teams.

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    So is CP3 though. And he's a Lebron ball-washer, legendary flop artist.

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    Our last major trade was for Pau Gasol. Your's was for Jefferson. I'd say we've set enough of a standard to speculate....have you?
    Cry......

    funnier things have happened and these "funnier" things have just about all been orchestrated by the Laker FO.....be careful what you say less it bite you in the a$$....

    ..just sayin..
    So you guys are essentially hoping that you have another farm team in your back pocket that won't shop around their superstars to any other teams in order to take whatever "offer" the Lakers are willing to give them? If you're willing to believe that, then yeah, I can see why you think you'll get Chris Paul in a Laker uniform soon. Talking about it like it's a done deal is pretty ridiculous, though.

    Better than the Spurs, that much is guaranteed.

    You were just defending Pau two posts ago. Be consistent.
    Yes, because saying a guy is decent trade bait is equivalent to saying you could get a top 5 player in the NBA for him. Joe Johnson is a good player but I'm not quite sure that the Hawks should start thinking about having Dirk on their team next year for JJ.

    Pau Gasol would upgrade the front court of both teams.
    Yeah, because having David West as your PF doesn't mean anything.


    What leverage does New Jersey or NOH even have?
    You're right, I must have missed that new rule that passed that said teams are ONLY allowed to trade their top 5 superstars for someone in a Lakers uniform. Dunno how that slipped by me.

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    It says something about the quality of a thread when Guiseppe is the most reasonable Lakers fans posting in it.

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    good luck having Hinrich chase the Westbrooks, Conleys, Roses, Rondos, Parkers, Bareas of the NBA.
    fisher does a better job

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    Yes, because saying a guy is decent trade bait is equivalent to saying you could get a top 5 player in the NBA for him. Joe Johnson is a good player but I'm not quite sure that the Hawks should start thinking about having Dirk on their team next year for JJ.
    Top 5 player? If you're referring to Cp3, he's going to be a free agent. Getting an All-NBA player sounds like a bargain considering the alternative.


    Yeah, because having David West as your PF doesn't mean anything.
    Why would it when they would be upgrading the center and backup PF position and possibly West's future replacement?


    You're right, I must have missed that new rule that passed that said teams are ONLY allowed to trade their top 5 superstars for someone in a Lakers uniform. Dunno how that slipped by me.
    It's nice when your team has the pieces to make said trade happen after winning 2 out of the last 3 NBA championships. Not like a Spur fan would know anything about that, though.

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    21_Blessings...

    "Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

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    "Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

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    at G lodgin' it in Texas.

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    Btw I don't if I've said it yet but lol Lakers.

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    ....no matter where he's landed.
    Yep.

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    Smelled like when I opened the thread. Took a look around, and saw all this gotry. That explains the scent

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