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I honeslty would stay away from any player that comes from the Wizards. That team is a Cesspool of the NBA.
Please say NO to Andray Blatche. That guy is a locker room cancer. He's 6'11 but he likes to play on the perimeter throwing up wild shots. His FG% is something like 43% if I recall, something like averaging 15 points but taking 14 shots to get it. In addition to the fist fights he's been invovled in, he's also had run ins with all his coaches over playing time, discipline, etc. He got caught soliciting a pros ute a few years ago too. He is the ANTI-SPUR.
I honeslty would stay away from any player that comes from the Wizards. That team is a Cesspool of the NBA.
im surprised no one has thought that we should unload rj's contract on the Kings. there cap next seson will only be between 22-23 mil. he would automatically become there 2nd best scorer, they have a load of capspace, and we could attempt to get jason thompson and omri casspi with rj and blair.
as for pop he should spend the offseason not developing players but himself. maybe the FO can get Larry Brown to come down for the offseason and reteach pop that defense wins championships
Not sure where I would stand on a Blatche - but being a realist - if the Spurs are gonna do a trade, especially one involving RJ you only have 2 options - take back someone who has some type of issues (character/health) or take back just as bad or worse contract for someone you think fits your system better
Now THIS is a trade worth exploring. It rids the Spurs of a bloated contract of a non-performing player, who doesn't fit their style at all (RJ), and gives the Kings a player, in Blair, who has a very favorable low-dollar contract. At the same time, it would solves two issues for the Spurs - bolstering the PF/C position, in Thompson, and giving them a potential starting SF in Casspi. I'm not sure what it would take to make it work, but this is definitely something to look into.
if you go to the trade machine it shows that the kings currently have 13+mill in capspace. they can easily absorb RJs contract. they would still be letting go of 3.5 million. we would reduce our salary cap to around 5.5 mill over the cap. (maybe if we offer hill and our draft pick we can trade for there lottery pick. maybe to much but worth a shot).
this trade helps both team considerably. we get 2 young athletic prospects who can quickly fill there roles.
the kings get a big boost in offense with RJ and a much need vet to take charge of there very young team with a developing big in blair. there cap would still be under 30 mil. they can afford to to pickup any FA big that would be a huge upgrade for them over thompson.
if there is anyone that can make contact with someone from the spurs FO PLEASE pitch this trade to them.
Don't see how any team can get a big boost in offense with RJ. He seems to have forgotten how to score.
pretty muchPlease say NO to Andray Blatche. That guy is a locker room cancer. He's 6'11 but he likes to play on the perimeter throwing up wild shots. His FG% is something like 43% if I recall, something like averaging 15 points but taking 14 shots to get it. In addition to the fist fights he's been invovled in, he's also had run ins with all his coaches over playing time, discipline, etc. He got caught soliciting a pros ute a few years ago too. He is the ANTI-SPUR.
Blatche has maybe the worst shoot selection of the entire league, he also has the BBIQ of an hot oyster
i understand. he didnt work out for us as a 4th option but thats because we didnt run plays for him. he still averaged 11 points for a scorer that pop turned into a wait in the corner and shoot the 3 guy. you have to look at it from another teams POV. the kings real only scorer is evans. RJ could become the 2nd option for the kings offense. when he played for nets & bucks they ran plays for him. thats why he put up great numbers. plus pop fixed RJ's shot.
get him to a team that will run plays for him & he will be a scorer again. he just doesnt work in our system. everyones severly undervaluing him. the kings are not gonna make the playoffs so its dumb for anyone to try to make an arguement that he disappears in the playoffs.
I don't think rj deals well with pressure, if he goes on a team with a losing record, he'll feel right at home.
How about RJ, Blair, and Bonner to the Bobcats for Sjackson, and Tyrus Thomas? Bobcats owe us right!?! Wait... Larry Brown no longer works for them, well damn...
Yes I know Bobcats would have a laugh, but to get rid of both Bonner and RJ in one trade for these players is a dream, a very wet one.
The only problem with a possible trade with the Kings is that their loaded at the sf position.
The only reason the Kings are not moving is beause of the potential lockout. They are in total rebuilding mode and since this years draft pick is week I would think they would want to get a hight 1-5 draft pick in the 2012 lottery so tanking the season and getting the number one pick is what they want more then anything.
I would trade RJ + Blair for Omri and then trade Hill and Dice to some other team for like Clevleand who needs to cap space relief and also won't like this years draft so maybe get a player and their draft pick
well at the moment they only have casspi and donte greene signed. as weird as it sounds RJ would be an upgrade over both of them. the player i really want out of the trade is jason thompson. exactly what everyone is saying we need. size: hes 6'11, hes very athletic, and has a mid range jumper and at there pick they will most likely take 1 of the Texas fowards. not really any big name SF in FA this year. alot of good bigs going out tho. they have a ton cap space as well.
well the kings would get better with RJ and they wont make the Playoffs for a while. but for the time they will be a better team.
doubt the cavs give up either of there picks. they have 2 options
1st pick Irving 4th pick Kawhi Leonard or 1st pick Derrick Williams 4th pick Night or Walker.
its really the only way for them to get quality players.
I'm well aware of all of his issues and red flags (which is why I mentioned them). I'm not saying I'd necessarily do it, I'm just saying they should look into it. Or they can continue to play it safe, nitpick damn near every single player, go "he's not Spurs material" and continue to go nowhere.Please say NO to Andray Blatche. That guy is a locker room cancer. He's 6'11 but he likes to play on the perimeter throwing up wild shots. His FG% is something like 43% if I recall, something like averaging 15 points but taking 14 shots to get it. In addition to the fist fights he's been invovled in, he's also had run ins with all his coaches over playing time, discipline, etc. He got caught soliciting a pros ute a few years ago too. He is the ANTI-SPUR.
I'll throw out another name: Clark. He's a UFA. 6-10, 23, combo forward, long, athletic, potential to be a very good, versatile defender and at minimum, a competent mid range shooter. The Magic like him and want to keep him, but they also have a bloated payroll and supposedly there's a chance Vasquez comes over. If he does, between Howard, Bass, Anderson, Vasquez and Orton, they'll be set at the big positions.
I could see the Spurs taking a flier on Clark. Overpaying for him with something like 2 years $6 million or 3 years $9 million. Something that he's not currently worth, but could potentially quickly turn into a bargain or at the very least good bang for the buck.
It's obvious they need more length and athleticism on the front line. Since they seem more consumed with adding a four, who can not be a liability on either end, than they do another center sized big, this could be the guy they target.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...20#post5215920
Why would they throw in Thompson for Blair? Both are decent, young PF's, around the same level, only one is 6-11 and the other is 6-7.
Good point.
True, but they have no one that is can provide the scoring punch that RJ can - and he'd be a better fit into their offensive scheme, much moreso than a team like the Spurs.
I'm trying to talk myself into this trade, all the while knowing the Kings would probably never go for it.
But I can dream...
True, but they have no one that is can provide the scoring punch that RJ can - and he'd be a better fit into their offensive scheme, much moreso than a team like the Spurs.
I'm trying to talk myself into this trade, all the while knowing the Kings would probably never go for it.
But I can dream...
blair is one of our front court problems. right now we need to get size keeping a 6'7 big on the bench will cause him to play him since he likes blair. thompson also has a mid range shot.
I understand the move from the Spurs perspective. They'd get a bigger body with a better mid range shot. But it makes no sense from the Kings perspective. In order for a trade to be realistic, it has to benefit all teams involved in some way. This wouldn't benefit the Kings.
ok here it is. who is the kings 2nd option? cousins is good but hes still so raw. they need a reliable 2nd option that they can go too. RJ would be that player. they practically have nothing but prospects. they can give up both casspi & thompson knowing they are getting a much needed veteran and scorer with a prospect big as a bonus. they have the 7th pick and will most likely pick one of the texas fowards. this trade is alot more realistic than everyone is thinking. at this point we need to trade for better fits and not to see if we can trade for a allstar. it sounds funny but there is no free agent SF that they can sign that can score like RJ(this is the sentence that someones gonna point out and use this
Cousins is. Who cares if he is raw? They're not going to be anywhere close to contending next season anyway. Jefferson is not a reliable second option. The Kings can probably get Jefferson for Casspi. I've got to imagine the Spurs would be ecstatic to gain the financial flexibility, while getting a decent young asset back.ok here it is. who is the kings 2nd option? cousins is good but hes still so raw. they need a reliable 2nd option that they can go too. RJ would be that player. they practically have nothing but prospects. they can give up both casspi & thompson knowing they are getting a much needed veteran and scorer with a prospect big as a bonus. they have the 7th pick and will most likely pick one of the texas fowards. this trade is alot more realistic than everyone is thinking. at this point we need to trade for better fits and not to see if we can trade for a allstar. it sounds funny but there is no free agent SF that they can sign that can score like RJ(this is the sentence that someones gonna point out and use this
I get what you're saying about fit and I agree. I'd be thrilled to see Jefferson traded for Casspi. It would give the Spurs a lot more financial flexibility and a decent young asset. They could sign Battier as a stopgap and use Casspi as an additional asset (along with McDyess, Blair and the 29th pick) for a quality, second or third big.
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