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    I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the Spurs to discover a star big(they need a star, Duncan is too old now) drafting in the late twenties. Hard enough to find one outside the top 5, much less 20-30.

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    like i posted in another thread. rj & blair to the kings for thompson and casspi. they are currently 13+ mill under the cap and will be between 22-23 mil salary starting in the offseason. they can easily take rj and pick up a FA big thats better than thompson.

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    The problem is Duncan offensively, can no longer take over a game like in years past, at least not consistantly. Duncan needs a big that can help in that area.
    Running pick and rolls with Splitter and Manu/Parker with two wings at the corners and Duncan on the opposite elbow allows Duncan the option of shooting a 12-15 foot jumper which he is very capable of doing thus forcing the big covering him unable to help on defense and allows him to stay fresh by not trying to post up down low. He can also used to screen the guard/forward for curls or baseline cuts (which the Jazz do very well). The person I'd like to see on that side would be Jefferson as this is strongest skill. Splitter cutting to the basket where he has the ability to finish, put the ball on the floor or pass to corners or cutters creates a lot of defensive movement. Damn just thinking about the possibilties gets me salivating.

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    like i posted in another thread. rj & blair to the kings for thompson and casspi. they are currently 13+ mill under the cap and will be between 22-23 mil salary starting in the offseason. they can easily take rj and pick up a FA big thats better than thompson.
    Yep i'd do that trade in a heartbeat

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    Are you suggesting that the Spurs should have found a big that is better than Duncan? Duncan is the greatest power forward of all time and finding a player to replace him with no cap space and limited assets would be next to impossible.
    C'mon man. How would that be possible? I'm not talking about a replacement for Duncan - because he cannot be replaced. What I am suggesting, however, is they should have found either a mid-career big, that could have either come in to provide immediate help or a a young player that would have grown into the position, where he could've helped Duncan shoulder the load and anchor the frontline.

    After a couple of years and several iterations of imports, Duncan is STILL the best big on this roster - at 35 years old! That should not be.

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    Since the T-Wolves now officially have the #2 pick in the draft - and should they select Derrick Williams - it could setup a scenario where Michael Beasley is expendable. Anybody interested in him, as a possible frontcourt running mate? I know he's been a bit of a head case, but would he be any worse option that say, Andrew Blatche?

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    I blame the FO and the stupid NBA rookie system that prevents international players like Splitter from coming over sooner (because of $$$). Splitter with NBA experience would've been a season changer compared to the crap bigs the Spurs have had in the past like Gooden. Damn shame.

    Hopefully the Spurs can make a move since Pop eventually abandoned the Blair/Bonner combo. Both young and veteran teams have frontcourts that will abuse the Spurs lack of defensive depth.

    Grabbing or developing some legit perimeter defenders could go a long way in making the most out of Duncan's defense as well. Anderson looked like he had good potential until his injury; Green looks decent as well...

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    Blair's a fatty, and that's all Pop was pointing out.

    Only 1 team wins the championship...the Spurs will be back.

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    Who will start with Duncan should be the last of Spurs' concern. Whatever rotation Spurs do, the result will be the same: Spurs frontcourt is too weak especially defensively. A significant trade or signing must be done this offseason to tweak the frontcourt.

    I haven't seen this mentioned at all in the forum http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may...ers-20110510/2.

    "San Antonio — Tony Parker makes a lot of money for someone with a backup the Spurs love (George Hill), could be available although the Spurs would have to get back a real prize — Pau Gasol? — to deal with the Lakers"

    Now obviously there isn't any chance the Lakers would even consider this trade, but it's surprising LA media to even mention such a possibility. Pau value in LA really took a hit.

    And since this is basically fantasy basketball we're talking about, and considering Pau peformance in the playoffs this year, would Spurs fan do this trade straight away? Just wondering.

    I certainly would.

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    Does anyone have a timeline for when these trades could go down. This summer after the Finals? Will most movement go down after the pending lockout is resolved? Perhaps I'm overly optimistic, but I was encouraged by Pop's recent staements that they are looking to make some moves to improve our front court.

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    I haven't seen this mentioned at all in the forum http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may...ers-20110510/2.

    "San Antonio — Tony Parker makes a lot of money for someone with a backup the Spurs love (George Hill), could be available although the Spurs would have to get back a real prize — Pau Gasol? — to deal with the Lakers"

    Now obviously there isn't any chance the Lakers would even consider this trade, but it's surprising LA media to even mention such a possibility. Pau value in LA really took a hit.

    And since this is basically fantasy basketball we're talking about, and considering Pau peformance in the playoffs this year, would Spurs fan do this trade straight away? Just wondering.

    I certainly would.
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    A Gasol/Duncan/Splitter frontcourt would be solid, only weak point would be Bonner, whom I'm sure Pop will continue using 20 minutes a game.

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    Parker to the Clippers for Chris Kamaan and Eric Gordan?

    Nah that won't happen would it

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    Parker to the Clippers for Chris Kamaan and Eric Gordan?

    Nah that won't happen would it
    lol Clippers traded the number#1 pick for mo williams nuff said.

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    lol Clippers traded the number#1 pick for mo williams nuff said.
    They did lol?Dumbasses

    Well maybe they would do this trade then lol

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    He'd been better than nothing. uva lot better than either Bonner or Blair. A Serge Ibaka type player. The biggest knock on him was he was too "foul prone". Well guess what? Ibaka was 2nd in the nba in disqualifications and that hasn't stopped him from playing/developing/contributing.
    I don't think so.

    The biggest knock on Mahinmi isn't really that he's foul prone, it's that he's stupid, which is a big reason why he's foul prone. Some players are physically gifted but lack the instinct or basketball IQ. Kwame Brown is also such a player.

    Ian can't seem to grasp any real system. In a run-and-gun free-for-all, against lesser talent, he can occasionally contribute due to sheer size and athletic ability, but in a real game, where strategy is everything, he's a liability because he doesn't have a clue where he's supposed to be or when he needs to rotate. He's always out of position, and therefore he fouls when he reacts to being out of position.

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    I don't think so.

    The biggest knock on Mahinmi isn't really that he's foul prone, it's that he's stupid, which is a big reason why he's foul prone. Some players are physically gifted but lack the instinct or basketball IQ. Kwame Brown is also such a player.

    Ian can't seem to grasp any real system. In a run-and-gun free-for-all, against lesser talent, he can occasionally contribute due to sheer size and athletic ability, but in a real game, where strategy is everything, he's a liability because he doesn't have a clue where he's supposed to be or when he needs to rotate. He's always out of position, and therefore he fouls when he reacts to being out of position.
    Mahinmi haters/popologists playing the "dumb" card now since they can't play the "foul prone" card anymore

    What's going to be next after the "dumb" card?



    Oh, btw..ppl used to comment all the time during game threads about how well Mahinmi rotated defensively, how he was always in the right place. Bzzzzt! Try again popsucker!

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    can't play the "foul prone" card anymore
    Why not?

    PFs per 48 minutes:

    2009-10: 9.31

    2010-11: 10.33

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    Why not?

    PFs per 48 minutes:

    2009-10: 9.31

    2010-11: 10.33
    And Ibaka fouls alot too... should he not play either?

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    Ian did rotate decently, but pretty much every time he made a mistake with one he would just foul, and his fouls often piled up rapidly, forcing him to be taken out of the game. This happened in the D-League as well as the NBA. He just hasn't been consistent enough to be a rotation player on a contending team. Haven't you figured that out by now?

    [awaits playing of the Haywood contract card]

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    And Ibaka fouls alot too... should he not play either?
    Ibaka is much smarter and better then Ian. He hasn't fouled out much in the playoffs.

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    Ian did rotate decently, but pretty much every time he made a mistake with one he would just foul, and his fouls often piled up rapidly, forcing him to be taken out of the game. This happened in the D-League as well as the NBA. He just hasn't been consistent enough to be a rotation player on a contending team. Haven't you figured that out by now?

    [awaits playing of the Haywood contract card]
    For an and of the bench player does it really make that much difference if Mahinmi plays 15-20 minutes a game and racks up 4-5 fouls? Does anyone care really if he fouls out? Doesn't make much difference, IMO.

    Would you rather have those fouls (plus a handful of blocks, intimidations, and shot alterations) then having Bonner standing around with his thumb up his ass holding up a sign that says "Detour here"

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    Why not?

    PFs per 48 minutes:

    2009-10: 9.31

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    And Ibaka fouls alot too... should he not play either?
    Ibaka

    2010-11: 5.8

    Yeah, they are totally alike in that respect.

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    For an and of the bench player does it really make that much difference if Mahinmi plays 15-20 minutes a game and racks up 4-5 fouls? Does anyone care really if he fouls out? Doesn't make much difference, IMO.

    Would you rather have those fouls (plus a handful of blocks, intimidations, and shot alterations) then having Bonner standing around with his thumb up his ass holding up a sign that says "Detour here"
    Contradict yourself much?

    lol 20mpg end of bench player.

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    Ibaka

    2010-11: 5.8

    Yeah, they are totally alike in that respect.
    Well this is just terrible, and thanks for pointing this awfulness out.. In his limited minutes he picks up a pair of fouls in an average game. Just terrible. I think I'm gonna go cry now.

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    And Ibaka fouls alot too... should he not play either?
    Still moving goal posts. Good to see your game hasn't changed.

    You said he couldn't be called foul prone any longer. The numbers clearly show that he is.

    Ibaka averaged 5.78 PF/48 compared to Ian's 10.31, so there ya go. Ibaka is also a much better basketball player than Ian, but you know that already.

    Look at the last two years with Ian. He didn't get regular minutes with the Spurs. He didn't get regular minutes with the French National Team (played behind guys that play in the French League). Finally, he couldn't get regular minutes with Dallas, getting fewer minutes than Brian Cardinal. That's three coaches in two years who couldn't find a way to get Ian into the rotation. I guess they're all just idiots.

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