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  1. #26
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    Not a bad performance from a sidekick tbh.

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    The Skunker

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    Dropping fuckin' loads! Nick Manning's Avatar
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    you must be thinking about the game in Dallas where Kobe and company came back from 30 points in the 4th.
    That was also in Staples...

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    That was also in Staples...
    Laker fans don't know about their team

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    Kobe's was far more impressive, more points in a less amount of time. Kobe didn't play a single second of the 4th quarter of that game where he scored 62 pts, Phil took him out at the end of the 3rd.

    Kobe had 62 points to the Mavs 61

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    if dirk had 31 shot attempts in his game, he would have had 60+ as well.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    if dirk had 31 shot attempts in his game, he would have had 60+ as well.
    but would have done it in 4 quarters

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    oops my bad ... I guess I was wrong. But like i said IIRC ...I must of confused the two ...
    I thought it was in Dallas too

  9. #34
    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    you guys are right


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    if dirk had 31 shot attempts in his game, he would have had 60+ as well.
    He attempted a load of shots. Fouls were called on most of them.

    foul call = shot attempt wiped away

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    He attempted a load of shots. Fouls were called on most of them.

    foul call = shot attempt wiped away
    No, the FGA is still accounted despite the foul. That's why the FG% tells half true without FT's.

  12. #37
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    The Skunker!!!

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    "Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

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    Only if the basket is made.

    Either way, its disingenuous to say that Dirk only tried to score 15 times. He attempted to score almost every time he got the ball, and foul shots don't change that. Had the Thunder been able to guard him without fouling, and ostensibly had the refs not turned him into DWhistle, he would have had at least 25 shot attempts.

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    When Kobe leads a team it gets skunked extremely often. His 4 HOF's team in the 2004 finals, then one of the pre-Gasol brief first round fodder series against the Suns, and now tragically sans Gasol in all-star form 2011 WCSF against Dallas despite being favorites to win it all . . .

    One of the best Robin's in modern era, but lacks BB IQ to be the Batman.

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    When Kobe leads a team it gets skunked extremely often. His 4 HOF's team in the 2004 finals, then one of the pre-Gasol brief first round fodder series against the Suns, and now tragically sans Gasol in all-star form 2011 WCSF against Dallas despite being favorites to win it all . . .

    One of the best Robin's in modern era, but lacks BB IQ to be the Batman.
    Kobe's a smart player. You don't win 5 championships and reach 7 NBA Finals if you lack IQ. He was also pretty good either as a 1st scoring option or a distributor on all championship teams. That tells me Kobe knows the ins and outs of a basketball game. And he was also a very good defender during those 3 peat years.


    What Kobe lacked however is killer instinct and leadership. He's pretty good closing out games in the regular season but come playoff time especially in the NBA finals or elimination games, he disappears. Kobe also doesn't have the same leadership of guys like Jordan, Bird and Magic to name a few.

    Game 2 & 6 of the 2008 NBA Finals
    Game 5 of the 2004 NBA Finals
    Game 7 of the 2010 NBA Finals
    Game 7 of the 2006 NBA Playoffs against the Suns
    Games 3 & 4 of the 2011 NBA Playoffs against the Mavs

    All of these are crucial games for the Lakers and Kobe did nothing to pull or motivate his team away from embarassment, humiliation or defeat.

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    When Kobe leads a team it gets skunked extremely often. His 4 HOF's team in the 2004 finals, then one of the pre-Gasol brief first round fodder series against the Suns, and now tragically sans Gasol in all-star form 2011 WCSF against Dallas despite being favorites to win it all . . .

    One of the best Robin's in modern era, but lacks BB IQ to be the Batman.
    Yet:::

    Kobe: 5

    tired old bag Duncan: 4

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    Game 2 & 6 of the 2008 NBA Finals
    Game 5 of the 2004 NBA Finals
    Game 7 of the 2010 NBA Finals
    Game 7 of the 2006 NBA Playoffs against the Suns
    Games 3 & 4 of the 2011 NBA Playoffs against the Mavs

    All of these are crucial games for the Lakers and Kobe did nothing to pull or motivate his team away from embarassment, humiliation or defeat.
    LOL mentioning 7 playoff games out of 208 playoff games that Kobe has played to try to prove he doesnt have leadership or a killer instict.



    GTFO

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    That being said, "62" was the most ridiculous scoring dominance I have ever witnessed. Much better than 81 imo
    This. If he hadn't sat in the fourth, I fully believed he could've gone off for 85 or so.

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    Yet:::

    Kobe: 5

    tired old bag Duncan: 4
    Kobe
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    3 skunkers, 2 championships (questionable if batman in 2010)
    As robin:
    1 skunker, 3 championships

    Duncan
    As batman:
    only 2 skunkers, 4 championships

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    LOL mentioning 7 playoff games out of 208 playoff games that Kobe has played to try to prove he doesnt have leadership or a killer instict.



    GTFO
    What a stupid logic. A players legacy is defined on games where it mattered the most. I don't care if Kobe scored 50 points against Raja Bell in Game 4. He skunked in the second half of Game 7 in the same series.

    Magic had a memorable NBA Finals performance as a rookie replacing Kareem. Isiah scored 25 points in the third quarter on a sprained ankle in Game 6 of the 88 Finals. Jordan averaged 40 PPG against the Suns, he drilled 6, 3 pointers against the Blazer in one half, dropped 38 points, 7 rebounds with the flu in Utah and ultimately finished the Jazz with "The Last Shot" with 45 points.


    Kobe has none of those in his resume. He benefited playing with a great supporting cast that pulled the Lakers from defeat. Fisher saved the Lakers quite a few times in 2009, Artest in 2010. And we all know Shaq dominated the prior 3 championships. Kobe had one chance to showcase his greatness last year but instead he gave the world 6/24.


    What I'm simply trying to say is Kobe historically doesn't fare well in games with importance. The one that stood out the most was Kobe's performance against the Magic in Game 5 of the 2009 NBA Finals and even that was mediocre in comparison to Greatest NBA Finals performances.

  22. #47
    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Duncan
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    only 2 skunkers, 4 championships
    lol 4 championships as batman...let me see the 4 Finals MVP trophys

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    What a stupid logic. A players legacy is defined on games where it mattered the most. I don't care if Kobe scored 50 points against Raja Bell in Game 4. He skunked in the second half of Game 7 in the same series.

    Magic had a memorable NBA Finals performance as a rookie replacing Kareem. Isiah scored 25 points in the third quarter on a sprained ankle in Game 6 of the 88 Finals. Jordan averaged 40 PPG against the Suns, he drilled 6, 3 pointers against the Blazer in one half, dropped 38 points, 7 rebounds with the flu in Utah and ultimately finished the Jazz with "The Last Shot" with 45 points.


    Kobe has none of those in his resume. He benefited playing with a great supporting cast that pulled the Lakers from defeat. Fisher saved the Lakers quite a few times in 2009, Artest in 2010. And we all know Shaq dominated the prior 3 championships. Kobe had one chance to showcase his greatness last year but instead he gave the world 6/24.


    What I'm simply trying to say is Kobe historically doesn't fare well in games with importance. The one that stood out the most was Kobe's performance against the Magic in Game 5 of the 2009 NBA Finals and even that was mediocre in comparison to Greatest NBA Finals performances.
    Your logic is stupid. All this typing...but didnt mention the countless games that was important that he did win and do good and didnt mention all the times Magic and Bird failed.

    Bias troll is bias. Mention the goods of the people you're comparing and mention the bads of Kobe. Great logic there son.

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    Your logic is stupid. All this typing...but didnt mention the countless games that was important that he did win and do good and didnt mention all the times Magic and Bird failed.

    Bias troll is bias. Mention the goods of the people you're comparing and mention the bads of Kobe. Great logic there son.
    Give me some good ones off the top of your head.

  25. #50
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Kobe
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    3 skunkers, 2 championships (questionable if batman in 2010)
    As robin:
    1 skunker, 3 championships

    Duncan
    As batman:
    only 2 skunkers, 4 championships
    Boiled down:::

    Kobe: 5

    tired old bag Duncan: 4

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