Mark Jackson couldn't stand seeing Dirk perform well because he is white

[Homeland Security]

You're just another example of how the masses feel about him. I not only don't hate Nowitzki, I don't even dislike him. I'm indifferent towards him. I'm just not going to get caught up in the hype and slobber over him, because he's a white guy who's amongst the best players in the world. Amidst all the points, I recognize his shortcomings. If that's interpreted as being "butthurt" or "hating", then so be it.

I'm not sure if that incoherent answer is some kind of trolling job, or because you go through life with pubic hair on your head and therefore cannot help it, but all I'm saying is that the only people who care about Dirk Nowitzki are Mavs fans and Germans in actual Germany. There is essentially zero hype and slobber outside of those groups.

[Nathan89]

1. That somewhat explains offensive, not defensive. And no, he's not a great defensive rebounder and his overall rebound rate is sub par. Randolph takes plenty of jumpers and still dominates the offensive glass. Randolph doesn't get that criticism because he's not all that long and he's not athletic. Bosh, Stoudemire, etc., have been criticized for years, even though they're very good scorers, too.

2. Too many teams make it easy on him.

3. '94 Olajuwon didn't and neither did '03 Duncan.

9. So you didn't watch the series, but you're going to comment on it? Tell me, supposed Spurs fan, what is your obsession with the best player on one of their two main rivals?

1. Apparently you don't watch Randolph because he gets a ton of his offensive rebounds missing his own shot in the paint. Blair gets those type of rebounds as well. You act like Randolph is coming into the paint and getting his teammates missed shots. FYI, Dirk isn't athletic either. So the reason Randolph doesn't get that criticism is because he's not athletic. A logical person would assume that's the same reason he doesn't get that criticism and not because he is white. Then you bring up two athletic guys that do receive criticism for that. Logic is still holding true.

2. He makes it look easy. If the best players on the best teams with the best coaches can't stop him then no one can.

3. Way to bring up player that no one is rating Dirk higher than.

9. Me watching the series isn't very important but you brought it up because you couldn't disagree with what I posted. You mention how great his depth is yet they didn't step up when Dirk couldn't dominate himself. Teams need at least two options and depth. If he had that his team could have carried him at the end of game 3 and the Mavs would have took a 3-0 lead. I guess you expect him to be on top of his game all game every game.

I don't have the obsession you do. You are the one that came in here typed up and typed up a bunch of bull paragraphs. I just wanted to call you out on that bull .

[jjktkk]

1. Apparently you don't watch Randolph because he gets a ton of his offensive rebounds missing his own shot in the paint. Blair gets those type of rebounds as well. You act like Randolph is coming into the paint and getting his teammates missed shots. FYI, Dirk isn't athletic either. So the reason Randolph doesn't get that criticism is because he's not athletic. A logical person would assume that's the same reason he doesn't get that criticism and not because he is white. Then you bring up two athletic guys that do receive criticism for that. Logic is still holding true.

2. He makes it look easy. If the best players on the best teams with the best coaches can't stop him then no one can.

3. Way to bring up player that no one is rating Dirk higher than.

9. Me watching the series isn't very important but you brought it up because you couldn't disagree with what I posted. You mention how great his depth is yet they didn't step up when Dirk couldn't dominate himself. Teams need at least two options and depth. If he had that his team could have carried him at the end of game 3 and the Mavs would have took a 3-0 lead. I guess you expect him to be on top of his game all game every game.

I don't have the obsession you do. You are the one that came in here typed up and typed up a bunch of bull paragraphs. I just wanted to call you out on that bull .

I can't stand the Mavs, hate them with a passion, but dude, come on, Dirk will be one of the alltime greats in the history of the league when he decides to hang em up.

[TD 21]

1. Apparently you don't watch Randolph because he gets a ton of his offensive rebounds missing his own shot in the paint. Blair gets those type of rebounds as well. You act like Randolph is coming into the paint and getting his teammates missed shots. FYI, Dirk isn't athletic either. So the reason Randolph doesn't get that criticism is because he's not athletic. A logical person would assume that's the same reason he doesn't get that criticism and not because he is white. Then you bring up two athletic guys that do receive criticism for that. Logic is still holding true.

2. He makes it look easy. If the best players on the best teams with the best coaches can't stop him then no one can.

3. Way to bring up player that no one is rating Dirk higher than.

9. Me watching the series isn't very important but you brought it up because you couldn't disagree with what I posted. You mention how great his depth is yet they didn't step up when Dirk couldn't dominate himself. Teams need at least two options and depth. If he had that his team could have carried him at the end of game 3 and the Mavs would have took a 3-0 lead. I guess you expect him to be on top of his game all game every game.

I don't have the obsession you do. You are the one that came in here typed up and typed up a bunch of bull paragraphs. I just wanted to call you out on that bull .

1. The point is, shooting a lot of jump shots doesn't necessarily have to equate to being an awful offensive rebounder. The difference is, Nowitzki is 7-0. Even if he's not very athletic, at that size and with decent mobility, there's no excuse to be so one dimensional.

9. If you didn't watch it, then you have no business commenting on it. So you're saying he needed the surrounding talent to carry him to a championship (in his prime, no less)? I absolutely expect an elite player, in the Finals, to carry his team.

That's what I mean when I say constant excuses. Malone would have been ripped to the end of eternity for such a colossal choke job. With Nowitzki, it's forgotten. He's apparently "cold blooded" and "a killer". All I hear about is how his numbers improve in the playoffs, yet McGrady was ripped relentlessly for not getting it done int he playoffs. Even though he has some of the best playoff numbers ever and played on severely limited teams.

[dirk4mvp]

McGrady himself blew a 2-0 lead against your favorite jump shooting German. Not exactly getting it done. It's also hilarious you avoiding the comment about Dirk averaging 26/10.6 in the playoffs, basically ting on your argument.

[100%duncan]

No, I said he's playing at a very high level and is the 5th best PF ever. Or did you miss that part?

People think Nowitzki being white hurts him, as far as recognition, but it actually helps. Look no further than Barkley, who's been tea bagging him all season (actually, for a few, but more than ever this season). Why is he doing it? Because in the early 00s, when he used to criticize the Mavs and Nowitzki, he took heat for it. The undertone to it all (even though it was never said, it was obvious) was that he didn't like him because he was white. So now he's going overboard in his praise of him to prove that that wasn't the reason he wasn't as high on him years ago.

He's just one example. Look at all the fans on this board who love him. Spurs fans love him (which is bizarre, considering the rivalry). He's probably the most beloved player in the league on this board, by people who are fans of other teams. He's the one player, if you're not incessantly slobbering over him, you'll take heat. You tell me why? Is it because he's exciting? I'm not hating, I'm just calling it like it is.

you're actually taking it serious dude

[Brad2217]

go mavs

[Jt.ONE]

3. Dirk hasn't played with the a top 50pg his entire career. He hasn't played for a team that focuses on defense. You can't win without help and a coach that stresses defense.

[Venti Quattro]

3. Dirk hasn't played with the a top 50pg his entire career. He hasn't played for a team that focuses on defense. You can't win without help and a coach that stresses defense.

[Nathan89]

I mean't top 50 player all time. I said entire career if you think Nash is top 50 and if he is top 50 he became that after his Dallas days.

[ElNono]

Hand down... man down

[Nathan89]

1. The point is, shooting a lot of jump shots doesn't necessarily have to equate to being an awful offensive rebounder. The difference is, Nowitzki is 7-0. Even if he's not very athletic, at that size and with decent mobility, there's no excuse to be so one dimensional.

9. If you didn't watch it, then you have no business commenting on it. So you're saying he needed the surrounding talent to carry him to a championship (in his prime, no less)? I absolutely expect an elite player, in the Finals, to carry his team.

That's what I mean when I say constant excuses. Malone would have been ripped to the end of eternity for such a colossal choke job. With Nowitzki, it's forgotten. He's apparently "cold blooded" and "a killer". All I hear about is how his numbers improve in the playoffs, yet McGrady was ripped relentlessly for not getting it done int he playoffs. Even though he has some of the best playoff numbers ever and played on severely limited teams.

1. The point you made wasn't valid and that is why I mentioned how Randolph gets 90% of his offensive rebounds. Some of the other posters already mentioned that Dirk averages over 10 rebounds in the playoffs. I guess that isn't good enough.

9. Dirk scored 30 points in the most important game of that series(game 3), I don't think getting help from his teammates cons utes as being carried.

LMFAO you hear about McGrady because he couldn't get out of the first round of the playoffs. If you are great you can make it out of the first round especially in the East.

[Kori Ellis]

are we allowed to say the "n" word on this forum? haven't quite figured that one out yet

No. And if the loser racists in this thread (and in the Club) keep it up, then they won't be posting here much longer.

[Sportstudi]

1. He is one dimensional. He excels at scoring and nothing else. He has definitely become a more complete scorer, though, as he's aged.

2. For a legit 7-0 player, which he is, with outstanding touch, which he has, those are easy, uncontested shots. It's no different than O'Neal in his prime flat out bulldozing people in the paint. But when he got by on physical tools, it was recognized as such. When Nowitzki does it, the masses slobber.

3. Nowitzki has played on a team that annually has a top three payroll. Sure, he hasn't had a legit second option since the days of Nash and Finley, but he's had tons of depth and loads of near All-Star types.

4. He can be guarded if he's going to be played straight up by guys 2-5 inches shorter than him. He's 7-0 and has a high release point, which means they have no chance at bothering his shot.

5. Coach of the Year is a joke award given to teams that surprise/overachieve. It has nothing to do with coaching a en.

6 and 7. Age is not a factor with him, because he plays as easy a game as possible. That's not a knock, that's the reality. Bryant, Duncan and Garnett are declining because they have more mileage and harder mileage, because of how they've played.

8. Sure they do.

9. It absolutely would be. Garnett was an outstanding all around player in his prime. There's only one reason anyone would rate Nowitzki ahead of him.

See what I mean. I didn't even criticize him and yet a bunch of clowns criticize me just because I don't overrate him. If it's not racial bias, you tell me why he's so beloved by media and fans alike, then? Even their most bitter rivals fans, as a whole, have an affinity for him (which is pathetic).

dirk4mvp, I didn't mean it that way. I meant that I think Barkley took the criticism to mean that he didn't like him because he was white. So now he goes overboard in his praise of him.

[ATXSPUR]

No. And if the loser racists in this thread (and in the Club) keep it up, then they won't be posting here much longer.

Thanks for addressing that. It was really irritating me.