Q&A: What does Pop do now?

[SenorSpur]

Cousins is. Who cares if he is raw? They're not going to be anywhere close to contending next season anyway. Jefferson is not a reliable second option. The Kings can probably get Jefferson for Casspi. I've got to imagine the Spurs would be ecstatic to gain the financial flexibility, while getting a decent young asset back.

I get what you're saying about fit and I agree. I'd be thrilled to see Jefferson traded for Casspi. It would give the Spurs a lot more financial flexibility and a decent young asset. They could sign Battier as a stopgap and use Casspi as an additional asset (along with McDyess, Blair and the 29th pick) for a quality, second or third big.

If the Spurs WERE to somehow acquire Casspi, why in the would they want to package him later to send away? He would clearly be a buildling block for the future. They wouldn't even need Battier. , they could make do with the combo of Casspi, DeSean Butler and James Anderson. Formulate any other possible scenarios to try a get a quality big, but I highly doubt they'd want to move Casspi because they've coveted him for so long.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

Cousins is. Who cares if he is raw? They're not going to be anywhere close to contending next season anyway. Jefferson is not a reliable second option. The Kings can probably get Jefferson for Casspi. I've got to imagine the Spurs would be ecstatic to gain the financial flexibility, while getting a decent young asset back.

I get what you're saying about fit and I agree. I'd be thrilled to see Jefferson traded for Casspi. It would give the Spurs a lot more financial flexibility and a decent young asset. They could sign Battier as a stopgap and use Casspi as an additional asset (along with McDyess, Blair and the 29th pick) for a quality, second or third big.

because hes raw hes not a reliable 2nd option. he makes horrible decisions & hes prob the most immature player in the league. they have no veterns on there team. they have nothing but prospects.i understand a rebuilding team wants to keep prospects but have nothing but prospects is not good either. they need a player with experience that they can go to when in a close game. i dont know why every thinks RJ's like 38 and about to retire. hes only 31 & just 2 years ago he averaged 20PPG. pop worked with RJ's shot and has expanded his game even further. to a team in desperate need to win(especially a team thats trying to keep from moving to a new city) he would be a very good pickup especially when his contract is alright for a player of his caliber. like the draft the FA's of 2012 is a weak group.

[Cessation]

Kings would be stupid to trade for rj, who's past his prime, and in his athletic decline, for for such promising young talents as caspi and thompson. In this league you gotta be either at the bottom in the lottery, getting high draft pics, or a contender. Mid of the pack, you're going nowhere. You should be adding vets only to get yourself over the hump, into contender status, similar to what thunder did at the trade deadline in acquiring perkins and nazr.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

Kings would be stupid to trade for rj, who's past his prime, and in his athletic decline, for for such promising young talents as caspi and thompson. In this league you gotta be either at the bottom in the lottery, getting high draft pics, or a contender. Mid of the pack, you're going nowhere. You should be adding vets only to get yourself over the hump, into contender status, similar to what thunder did at the trade deadline in acquiring perkins and nazr.

they would be stupid to trade for RJ who was the 4th option of a team that never ran plays for him yet still managed to average 11ppg, shoot 44% from behind the arc, fixed his jumper by working with the best shooting coach in NBA, & lost weight over the previous offseason.

i know everyone dislikes the guy(some even hate him) but pop didnt nearly use RJ to his full potential. RJ can finish at the rim, drain mid range jumpers, and knock down 3's(only thing pop used RJ for). like you said they are in the mid of the pack. no other team will offer them a player of rj's caliber for anyone on there team other than evans and cousins. they have a load of cap space and there is no one better. name one wing player available in FA thats better than RJ? and dont pick the players that are obviously gonna resign with there team.

[edgar]

We should trade Parker and Jefferson now. Two years in a row and still the same result.

[TD 21]

because hes raw hes not a reliable 2nd option. he makes horrible decisions & hes prob the most immature player in the league. they have no veterns on there team. they have nothing but prospects.i understand a rebuilding team wants to keep prospects but have nothing but prospects is not good either. they need a player with experience that they can go to when in a close game. i dont know why every thinks RJ's like 38 and about to retire. hes only 31 & just 2 years ago he averaged 20PPG. pop worked with RJ's shot and has expanded his game even further. to a team in desperate need to win(especially a team thats trying to keep from moving to a new city) he would be a very good pickup especially when his contract is alright for a player of his caliber. like the draft the FA's of 2012 is a weak group.

Who cares? You act like they're on the verge of contending for a championship and his rawness is holding him back. I agree that Jefferson, both positionally and in the way he conducts himself, would be a good fit and that financially, with all their cap space, it's not like his contract would cripple them. But they shouldn't get him to put him ahead of Cousins in the pecking order offensively and it makes no sense to throw in Thompson for Blair.

SenorSpur, they could keep Casspi. I'd rather they go with Battier/Anderson at the three and throw him into a package for a quality big. But the point is, it would give them another decent young asset, which gives them more options.

[Cessation]

they would be stupid to trade for RJ who was the 4th option of a team that never ran plays for him yet still managed to average 11ppg, shoot 44% from behind the arc, fixed his jumper by working with the best shooting coach in NBA, & lost weight over the previous offseason.

i know everyone dislikes the guy(some even hate him) but pop didnt nearly use RJ to his full potential. RJ can finish at the rim, drain mid range jumpers, and knock down 3's(only thing pop used RJ for). like you said they are in the mid of the pack. no other team will offer them a player of rj's caliber for anyone on there team other than evans and cousins. they have a load of cap space and there is no one better. name one wing player available in FA thats better than RJ? and dont pick the players that are obviously gonna resign with there team.

I like J well enough, more than most actually, but the decline in his production as the season wore on, can't be denied. Culminating in having numbers like 38%fg, 35%3pt, and 6 ppg, in the playoffs, its rather telling at what he's about. I agree, that he could have been more involved in the offence, but I don't think he would have made that much difference, lets be honest, he got most of his points of the hot 3pt shooting earlier in the season. He wasn't really the 4th option, since when hill and neal came in they took most of the shots. In the playoffs, he had 6 players averaging more points than him, including splitter, lol.

His midrage j is very inconsitent, he has poor handles, can't create his own shot, can't finish in traffic of the dribble anymore, just flails and hopes for a call. He's rather one dimensional offencivelly. Defensivelly he's also mediocre at best. He has relied on his athletism and a pg that can set him, most of his career, which doesn't require much skill. He's 31, he could improve his j, but all other aspects of his game will decline as the years progress, in his last year he'll be making around 11 mill at 34 years of age. I'm sure the kings are aware that he'd just be a black hole on that team. Thompson, is a promising young big at 6-11, 250 with a midrage jumper, they'd be insane to trade him for rj, tbh.

Two years ago the bucks, gave him up for scrap, and everyone thought they got a steal, but in the end, it looks like the joke's on the Spurs FO. It's nice to fantasize about these dream trades, and I would love if spurs could pull of a miracle of these proportions, but I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

I like J well enough, more than most actually, but the decline in his production as the season wore on, can't be denied. Culminating in having numbers like 38%fg, 35%3pt, and 6 ppg, in the playoffs, its rather telling at what he's about. I agree, that he could have been more involved in the offence, but I don't think he would have made that much difference, lets be honest, he got most of his points of the hot 3pt shooting earlier in the season. He wasn't really the 4th option, since when hill and neal came in they took most of the shots. In the playoffs, he had 6 players averaging more points than him, including splitter, lol.

His midrage j is very inconsitent, he has poor handles, can't create his own shot, can't finish in traffic of the dribble anymore, just flails and hopes for a call. He's rather one dimensional offencivelly. Defensivelly he's also mediocre at best. He has relied on his athletism and a pg that can set him, most of his career, which doesn't require much skill. He's 31, he could improve his j, but all other aspects of his game will decline as the years progress, in his last year he'll be making around 11 mill at 34 years of age. I'm sure the kings are aware that he'd just be a black hole on that team. Thompson, is a promising young big at 6-11, 250 with a midrage jumper, they'd be insane to trade him for rj, tbh.

Two years ago the bucks, gave him up for scrap, and everyone thought they got a steal, but in the end, it looks like the joke's on the Spurs FO. It's nice to fantasize about these dream trades, and I would love if spurs could pull of a miracle of these proportions, but I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

this years playoffs both TP and hill tanked. they were horrible in running the offense and when rjs only touches came from when hes in the corner for 3's its hard for him to score. plus having 3 of the top perimeter defenders in a rotation made it hard for any of our wings and backcourt to score. hes barley gonna be 31 and he hasnt had a horrible decline. his mid range jumper was his most consitent shot this year due to working with pop all offseason. he dropped weight so he isnt getting slow or big.

lol dream trade. your really giving the kings FO too much credit. look at there most recent trades.

1st screw job: they trade away kevin martin(one of the top scorers in the NBA), prospect sergio rodriguez, & promising big hilton armstrong for carl landry, joey dorsey, and lol larry hughes. rockets walk away laughing when they pick up martin, jordan hill, jared jeffries while unloading tmac. knicks got tmac and rodriquez.

2nd screw job: they trade away a young 7'1 big in spencer hawes and a good sf in Nocioni for Dalembert. they said they did the trade for immediate help. something RJ can do for the kings.

3rd screw job: after getting rid of martin for carl landry they trade him away for marcus thornton to try and find a scorer.

they seem to not have a problem in trading away there young players and for most of his time on the kings thompson has been coming off the bench. i just read that there first priority of buisness is to bring back dalembert. so yes the trade is way more realistic than you realize since with there 7th pick the best players available are PF.

[jjktkk]

I like J well enough, more than most actually, but the decline in his production as the season wore on, can't be denied. Culminating in having numbers like 38%fg, 35%3pt, and 6 ppg, in the playoffs, its rather telling at what he's about. I agree, that he could have been more involved in the offence, but I don't think he would have made that much difference, lets be honest, he got most of his points of the hot 3pt shooting earlier in the season. He wasn't really the 4th option, since when hill and neal came in they took most of the shots. In the playoffs, he had 6 players averaging more points than him, including splitter, lol.

His midrage j is very inconsitent, he has poor handles, can't create his own shot, can't finish in traffic of the dribble anymore, just flails and hopes for a call. He's rather one dimensional offencivelly. Defensivelly he's also mediocre at best. He has relied on his athletism and a pg that can set him, most of his career, which doesn't require much skill. He's 31, he could improve his j, but all other aspects of his game will decline as the years progress, in his last year he'll be making around 11 mill at 34 years of age. I'm sure the kings are aware that he'd just be a black hole on that team. Thompson, is a promising young big at 6-11, 250 with a midrage jumper, they'd be insane to trade him for rj, tbh.

Two years ago the bucks, gave him up for scrap, and everyone thought they got a steal, but in the end, it looks like the joke's on the Spurs FO. It's nice to fantasize about these dream trades, and I would love if spurs could pull of a miracle of these proportions, but I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

This.

[dbestpro]

We should trade Parker and Jefferson now. Two years in a row and still the same result.

For sure these two should never be on the same team.

[elemento]

I like J well enough, more than most actually, but the decline in his production as the season wore on, can't be denied. Culminating in having numbers like 38%fg, 35%3pt, and 6 ppg, in the playoffs, its rather telling at what he's about. I agree, that he could have been more involved in the offence, but I don't think he would have made that much difference, lets be honest, he got most of his points of the hot 3pt shooting earlier in the season. He wasn't really the 4th option, since when hill and neal came in they took most of the shots. In the playoffs, he had 6 players averaging more points than him, including splitter, lol.

His midrage j is very inconsitent, he has poor handles, can't create his own shot, can't finish in traffic of the dribble anymore, just flails and hopes for a call. He's rather one dimensional offencivelly. Defensivelly he's also mediocre at best. He has relied on his athletism and a pg that can set him, most of his career, which doesn't require much skill. He's 31, he could improve his j, but all other aspects of his game will decline as the years progress, in his last year he'll be making around 11 mill at 34 years of age. I'm sure the kings are aware that he'd just be a black hole on that team. Thompson, is a promising young big at 6-11, 250 with a midrage jumper, they'd be insane to trade him for rj, tbh.

Two years ago the bucks, gave him up for scrap, and everyone thought they got a steal, but in the end, it looks like the joke's on the Spurs FO. It's nice to fantasize about these dream trades, and I would love if spurs could pull of a miracle of these proportions, but I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

100% right. It is so sad to read all this stuff knowing it is all true.

Jefferson is awful

[SenorSpur]

I like J well enough, more than most actually, but the decline in his production as the season wore on, can't be denied. Culminating in having numbers like 38%fg, 35%3pt, and 6 ppg, in the playoffs, its rather telling at what he's about. I agree, that he could have been more involved in the offence, but I don't think he would have made that much difference, lets be honest, he got most of his points of the hot 3pt shooting earlier in the season. He wasn't really the 4th option, since when hill and neal came in they took most of the shots. In the playoffs, he had 6 players averaging more points than him, including splitter, lol.

His midrage j is very inconsitent, he has poor handles, can't create his own shot, can't finish in traffic of the dribble anymore, just flails and hopes for a call. He's rather one dimensional offencivelly. Defensivelly he's also mediocre at best. He has relied on his athletism and a pg that can set him, most of his career, which doesn't require much skill. He's 31, he could improve his j, but all other aspects of his game will decline as the years progress, in his last year he'll be making around 11 mill at 34 years of age. I'm sure the kings are aware that he'd just be a black hole on that team. Thompson, is a promising young big at 6-11, 250 with a midrage jumper, they'd be insane to trade him for rj, tbh.

Two years ago the bucks, gave him up for scrap, and everyone thought they got a steal, but in the end, it looks like the joke's on the Spurs FO. It's nice to fantasize about these dream trades, and I would love if spurs could pull of a miracle of these proportions, but I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

J has been an often-criticized, underperforming role player for the Spurs. He deserves ALL the criticism he's getting. That said, two issues raises where this is concerned.

First, for all his passiveness, RJ was what he was when the Spurs brought him to town. That was the book on him. While trading for him seemed like a good move at the time, trying to transform himself from a slashing, open-court scorer to a spot-up 3-pt shooter, at 29 years old, was a stretch. Expecting him to become even an average defender, when he's never demonstrated a level of defensive willingness throughout his career, was also a bit much. Given the fact that RJ has been such a terrible fit and his 2-year stint has been such an obvious failure, one has to wonder exactly what were Pop and RC thinking? I like the thought, they just targeted the wrong player.

Second, seeing as how RJ is the leading whipping boy among us Spurs fans, and probably even Pop himself, it strikes me as strange that Bonner seemingly gets a pass from the coaching staff. After all, he's repeatedly demonstrated that he's a mental midget. Yet he has been allowed to continue sucking year after year. And he's even rewarded with a 4-yr contract!

I'm all for the Spurs ridding the roster of non-performing players like RJ, but he isn't the only one.

[jjktkk]

J has been an often-criticized, underperforming role player for the Spurs. He deserves ALL the criticism he's getting. That said, two issues raises where this is concerned.

First, for all his passiveness, RJ was what he was when the Spurs brought him to town. That was the book on him. While trading for him seemed like a good move at the time, trying to transform himself from a slashing, open-court scorer to a spot-up 3-pt shooter, at 29 years old, was a stretch. Expecting him to become even an average defender, when he's never demonstrated a level of defensive willingness throughout his career, was also a bit much. Given the fact that RJ has been such a terrible fit and his 2-year stint has been such an obvious failure, one has to wonder exactly what were Pop and RC thinking? I like the thought, they just targeted the wrong player.

Second, seeing as how RJ is the leading whipping boy among us Spurs fans, and probably even Pop himself, it strikes me as strange that Bonner seemingly gets a pass from the coaching staff. After all, he's repeatedly demonstrated that he's a mental midget. Yet he has been allowed to continue sucking year after year. And he's even rewarded with a 4-yr contract!

I'm all for the Spurs ridding the roster of non-performing players like RJ, but he isn't the only one.

Bonner has the face expression that hes really trying and working hard out there.

[SenorSpur]

Bonner has the face expression that hes really trying and working hard out there.

Actually, I can see how that makes a difference.

[Cessation]

J has been an often-criticized, underperforming role player for the Spurs. He deserves ALL the criticism he's getting. That said, two issues raises where this is concerned.

First, for all his passiveness, RJ was what he was when the Spurs brought him to town. That was the book on him. While trading for him seemed like a good move at the time, trying to transform himself from a slashing, open-court scorer to a spot-up 3-pt shooter, at 29 years old, was a stretch. Expecting him to become even an average defender, when he's never demonstrated a level of defensive willingness throughout his career, was also a bit much. Given the fact that RJ has been such a terrible fit and his 2-year stint has been such an obvious failure, one has to wonder exactly what were Pop and RC thinking? I like the thought, they just targeted the wrong player.

Second, seeing as how RJ is the leading whipping boy among us Spurs fans, and probably even Pop himself, it strikes me as strange that Bonner seemingly gets a pass from the coaching staff. After all, he's repeatedly demonstrated that he's a mental midget. Yet he has been allowed to continue sucking year after year. And he's even rewarded with a 4-yr contract!

I'm all for the Spurs ridding the roster of non-performing players like RJ, but he isn't the only one.

Quality post, tbh, especially the part where you mention the fo trying to make him something he isn't at 29 years of age. It might have worked when he was younger, but when gets tough at that age you tend to revert to your old habits. I think the main blame is obvioulsy on pop and fo, followed by the Turd Towers, with RJ bringing up the rear. is a descent role player on a playoff team, but not one with championship asspirations. Similar to bonner, he seems to fade when there is significant increase in pressure, as there inevitably will be during a le run.

[Muser]

Pop made RJ into Bruce Bowen without the D. Shameful.

[silverblk mystix]

The Spurs could still contend...the players and a tweak here or there and they could seriously have a shot...


EXCEPT---


For Pop...Pop is the elephant in the room and his moronic decisions are the spurs BIGGEST problem.
It is so obvious to see once you really open your eyes and pay attention.

[timtonymanu]

The Spurs could still contend...the players and a tweak here or there and they could seriously have a shot...


EXCEPT---


For Pop...Pop is the elephant in the room and his moronic decisions are the spurs BIGGEST problem.
It is so obvious to see once you really open your eyes and pay attention.

THIS

Pop needs to realize

1.) This is an athlete's game now. The thing he said about athletes is quite disturbing. Look at the remaining teams in the playoffs. Excluding Dallas, all the teams are young and athletic. He can't keep looking for one-dimensional players with no athleticism. It's one thing to be young. It's another thing to be athletic.

2.) He needs to realize that Timmy isn't 27 anymore. He can't keep treating Tim like he is the number one option. Give him some legit help and not Matt Bonner. I would have thought Splitter would have had earned his time by now but it sounds like Pop is still not sure.

[TJastal]

THIS

Pop needs to realize

1.) This is an athlete's game now. The thing he said about athletes is quite disturbing. Look at the remaining teams in the playoffs. Excluding Dallas, all the teams are young and athletic. He can't keep looking for one-dimensional players with no athleticism. It's one thing to be young. It's another thing to be athletic.

2.) He needs to realize that Timmy isn't 27 anymore. He can't keep treating Tim like he is the number one option. Give him some legit help and not Matt Bonner. I would have thought Splitter would have had earned his time by now but it sounds like Pop is still not sure.

It's probably too late at this point to do anything about the problems. The damage is done, there is no rolling back the clock on Tim's knees and stress levels. And as long as Holt wakes up every with his viagra induced morning wood from dreams about the good ol' days Pop will remain the spurs' coach.

[Fabbs]

It's probably too late at this point to do anything about the problems. The damage is done, there is no rolling back the clock on Tim's knees and stress levels. And as long as Holt wakes up every with morning wood every day from the dreams about the good ol' days Pop will be the spurs' coach.

^ This.

So in answer to the OP of What does Pop do now..... Pop continues to act like the power trippy ass he is, pull fat checks from Holt, continue to ride Tim into the dirt until the ruination job is complete, then skirts off coatail style to endless praisings from the PollyAnna Poppers Club, which includes most local media.

[jjktkk]

^ This.

So in answer to the OP of What does Pop do now..... Pop continues to act like the power trippy ass he is, pull fat checks from Holt, continue to ride Tim into the dirt until the ruination job is complete, then skirts off coatail style to endless praisings from the PollyAnna Poppers Club, which includes most local media.

Yes, isn't it wonderful? Go Pop!