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    There were definitely other factors. My point wasn't to pin the entirety of Israel's creation on one factor but to point out hypocrisy of others on a different subject that parallels this one.

    Its quite obvious I failed in making that point.

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    The day race becomes a non-issue is the day that it can no longer be used as an excuse for mediocrity or as a weapon to smear political opponents.
    You should be ing castrated to prevent contaminating the gene pool with your extreme mental re ation.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    The day race becomes a non-issue is the day that it can no longer be used as an excuse for mediocrity or as a weapon to smear political opponents.
    LOL!

    Oh really?

    I figured that would be the day we were all considered the same and equal in our society. Wow man, you have a history of making telling quotes but this is a great one. Apprently the biggest problems involving race are not the fact that far more african americans are poor, in jail, or making less money but that its used to smear political opponents.

    SMH.

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    Don't hold back, vy65. Tell us what you really think.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    I guess you have a bone to pick with MLK. Like I said. You're so full of , it isn't funny. MannyisFOS
    I'd love for you to explain to me how I'm full of .

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    Don't hold back, vy65. Tell us what you really think.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    The day race becomes a non-issue is the day that it can no longer be used as an excuse for mediocrity or as a weapon to smear political opponents.
    Wow, just wow. I'm pretty blown away by this statement.

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    Regardless of it's shortcomings, that was a fantastic attempt from a bowl of French Onion Soup.
    If nothing else it was one of a hijack. It made my train ride go by in the blink of an eye.

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    Don't hold back, vy65. Tell us what you really think.
    I call 'em like I see 'em . . . what can I say?

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    The Jessy Jacksons, Al Sharptons, and apparently the Manny's of the world need to keep race a central issue.

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    You should be ing castrated to prevent contaminating the gene pool with your extreme mental re ation.
    civility

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    The day race becomes a non-issue is the day that it can no longer be used as an excuse for mediocrity or as a weapon to smear political opponents.
    Willful ignorance.

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    Darrin, maybe you can tell us what the US gets in return for it's financial support of Israel.

    Give it a shot.

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    If I was Israel I would tell Obama to kiss my ass. There is no ing way I would give up the Golan Heights where Syria could again start randomly lobbing artillery s s on my heartland.

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    I think if Israel truly wanted peace, they would have had it by now. Their actions aren't just about protecting themselves, but at subjugating and dominating through might and fear. They may feel that's the best way to protect themselves, but I find that concept disgusting.

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    You didn't read the speech, did you?
    I think his point has to do with how we would feel if we let the few in Mexico have their way of returning those borders.

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    when Israel gives up the land Obama is asking them to give up, terrorists will suddenly lay down their arms and be all about peace. that's exactly what will happen.


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    They hate each other guts... what else is there to add?

    Obama is hardly the first nor will be the last to propose different solutions to get 'peace talks' going again. But it's obviously a non-starter seeing that both sides are simply unwilling to do so.

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    As far as the US is concerned, I agree I still don't get what we're getting for the aid provided. Especially now that everyone is up in arms about what our deficits are.

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    when Israel gives up the land Obama is asking them to give up, terrorists will suddenly lay down their arms and be all about peace. that's exactly what will happen.

    I see you forgot the blue...

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    As far as the US is concerned, I agree I still don't get what we're getting for the aid provided. Especially now that everyone is up in arms about what our deficits are.
    Based on that criteria, there are probably very few countries we should give aid to.


    I'm sure Israel is in this pie chart somewhere.



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    Based on that criteria, there are probably very few countries we should give aid to.
    Correct.

    I'm sure Israel is in this pie chart somewhere.

    Something doesn't add up in that chart... perhaps they've avoided FMF funding? Numbers including official sources:

    http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/poli...oreign-aid.htm

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    2008 figures (latest available looks like) from the US Census Bureau:

    http://www.census.gov/compendia/stat...reign_aid.html

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    I'm sure Israel is in this pie chart somewhere.

    Actually, you won't find it in that chart:

    So this chart does not include military aid, and it would not include aid to Israel even if that aid were economic in nature, since Israel is not on the DAC-approved list of developing countries. (www.oecd.org/dac/stats/daclist)

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