Duncan's front court running mate search

[ChumpDumper]

Well this is just terrible, and thanks for pointing this awfulness out.. In his limited minutes he picks up a pair of fouls in an average game. Just terrible. I think I'm gonna go cry now.

I guess you've never seen Ian actually play.

That makes the most sense here.

Your saying like 5.8 = 10.3 and end of bench players log 20 minutes a game reinforces the theory you simply have no idea what you are talking about.

[ChumpDumper]

Still moving goal posts. Good to see your game hasn't changed.

You said he couldn't be called foul prone any longer. The numbers clearly show that he is.

Ibaka averaged 5.78 PF/48 compared to Ian's 10.31, so there ya go. Ibaka is also a much better basketball player than Ian, but you know that already.

Look at the last two years with Ian. He didn't get regular minutes with the Spurs. He didn't get regular minutes with the French National Team (played behind guys that play in the French League). Finally, he couldn't get regular minutes with Dallas, getting fewer minutes than Brian Cardinal. That's three coaches in two years who couldn't find a way to get Ian into the rotation. I guess they're all just idiots.

Contracts!

[TJastal]

Still moving goal posts. Good to see your game hasn't changed.

You said he couldn't be called foul prone any longer. The numbers clearly show that he is.

Ibaka averaged 5.78 PF/48 compared to Ian's 10.31, so there ya go. Ibaka is also a much better basketball player than Ian, but you know that already.

Look at the last two years with Ian. He didn't get regular minutes with the Spurs. He didn't get regular minutes with the French National Team (played behind guys that play in the French League). Finally, he couldn't get regular minutes with Dallas, getting fewer minutes than Brian Cardinal. That's three coaches in two years who couldn't find a way to get Ian into the rotation. I guess they're all just idiots.

And what, he just turned 24? He's a Presti signing too. I think he's still deleoping and learning the nba game.

Funny how he always seemed to play well when given the rare chance with the spurs. He even performed well against the grizzlies frontline.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310115029

Remind me again... how did the traffic cone.. err ... Bonner do against the grizzlies?

[ChumpDumper]

The age card!

[ChumpDumper]

And what, he just turned 24? He's a Presti signing too. I think he's still deleoping and learning the nba game.

Funny how he always seemed to play well when given the rare chance with the spurs. He even performed well against the grizzlies frontline.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310115029

You're giving us a 19-point loss as evidence that Ian played well?

[ChumpDumper]

Looking for another box score?

[Mel_13]

lol TJastal

He still delivers the goods.

[TJastal]

I guess you've never seen Ian actually play.

That makes the most sense here.

Your saying like 5.8 = 10.3 and end of bench players log 20 minutes a game reinforces the theory you simply have no idea what you are talking about.

I feel like I'm arguing with little sissified cuckold versions of Pop. Omg we can't foul! We have to play by the rules! Someone might actually foul out of a game, then what would we do??

This is why guys like Bonner are playing and will continue to play...guys who will back down from contact and hardly ever contest a shot.. stand arms upraised and still get tagged with a foul while becoming posterized. Regular season wonders who will not hack it once the playoffs start.

If I had a say, I'm going with Ian cuz we I know his fouls will count. Good, hard fouls, and 6 of em. Who gives a if he fouls out..

I'm gonna go cry some more now.. seems to be the prevailing theme around here lately...

[TJastal]

You're giving us a 19-point loss as evidence that Ian played well?

Did Ian play well against the grizzlies, yes or no?

[ChumpDumper]

I feel like I'm arguing with little sissified cuckold versions of Pop. Omg we can't foul! We have to play by the rules! Someone might actually foul out of a game, then what would we do??

This is why guys like Bonner are playing and will continue to play...guys who will back down from contact and hardly ever contest a shot.. stand arms upraised and still get tagged with a foul while becoming posterized. Regular season wonders who will not hack it once the playoffs start.

If I had a say, I'm going with Ian cuz we I know his fouls will count. Good, hard fouls, and 6 of em. Who gives a if he fouls out..

I'm gonna go cry some more now.. seems to be the prevailing theme around here lately...

No one who fouls at that rate is a "15-20 mpg end of bench player."

Your tantrums will not change that.

[Mel_13]

I'm going with Ian cuz we I know his fouls will count.

First version: Ian's not foul prone!

Second version: Ibaka's foul prone and he plays!

Third version: Doesn't matter because he's an end of the bench player who plays 15-20 mpg! (still trying to figure that one out)

Latest version: It's good that he's foul prone because his fouls will count!

[ChumpDumper]

Did Ian play well against the grizzlies, yes or no?

Bonner had a great game against Memphis in February.

Whoopee.

[TJastal]

No one who fouls at that rate is a "15-20 mpg end of bench player."

Your tantrums will not change that.

So again, why is this a problem for a guy playing 15 minutes a game exactly?

[TJastal]

First version: Ian's not foul prone!

Second version: Ibaka's foul prone and he plays!

Third version: Doesn't matter because he's an end of the bench player who plays 15-20 mpg! (still trying to figure that one out)

Latest version: It's good that he's foul prone because his fouls will count!

I never said Ian wasn't foul prone, just said it was a bad argument to use against him. Maybe I wasn't clear enough? And your other "versions" that take my statements out of context (if even that) is re ed. Tbh, I expect better from you, Mel_13.

[ChumpDumper]

So again, why is this a problem for a guy playing 15 minutes a game exactly?

Nobody who fouls at that rate plays that much in the NBA.

Period.

[Mel_13]

I never said Ian wasn't foul prone, just said it was a bad argument to use against him. Maybe I wasn't clear enough? And your other "versions" that take my statements out of context (if even that) is re ed. Tbh, I expect better from you, Mel_13.

Sure...

[silverblk mystix]

Nobody who fouls at that rate plays that much in the NBA.

Period.

Chump, are you defending Bonner?

[TJastal]

Nobody who fouls at that rate plays that much in the NBA.

Period.

I guess Dallas must've missed that memo when they signed him to a contract this past off season.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump, are you defending Bonner?

Nope. It was just too good a comparison to pass up.

[ChumpDumper]

I guess Dallas must've missed that memo when they signed him to a contract this past off season.

No, Ian played 8.7 mpg like a real end of bench player.

Are you high or something?

You are making even less sense than usual.

[Mel_13]

So again, why is this a problem for a guy playing 15 minutes a game exactly?

Nobody who fouls at that rate plays that much in the NBA.

Period.

I guess Dallas must've missed that memo when they signed him to a contract this past off season.

They signed him to minimum contract and played him in 56 out of 82 games at only for 8.7mpg in those 56 games. So, it looks like they did get that memo.

btw, quoted your complete posts to avoid taking anything out of context.

[TJastal]

My mistake. I read that Chumpdumper quote to mean that no player who fouls at that rate plays in the nba. So he doesn't play much? For a guy getting anywhere from 5-20 minutes on any given night how is this a problem, again? He'll still never foul out of a game.

[ChumpDumper]

The only guy who meets TJ's rather specious definition of a 15-20 mpg end of bench player who fouls at a high rate is Ryan Hollins, who played 16.9 mpg while fouling at a rate of 8.1 per 48. And even TJ has to know Cleveland was not a contender this season.

Hollins also played a bit for Dallas in the 08-09 season, where he played 9.6 mpg while committing 8.2 fouls per 48.

[ChumpDumper]

My mistake. I read that Chumpdumper quote to mean that no player who fouls at that rate plays in the nba. So he doesn't play much? For a guy getting anywhere from 5-20 minutes on any given night how is this a problem, again? He'll still never foul out of a game.

You moved the goalposts 10 minutes.

Now you are trying to say what is the harm in playing Ian exactly the way the Mavs and Spurs played him?

Well, I have to agree: There is no harm in playing Ian as much as the Mavs and Spurs played him.

Good talk.

[Mel_13]

My mistake. I read that Chumpdumper quote to mean that no player who fouls at that rate plays in the nba. So he doesn't play much? For a guy getting anywhere from 5-20 minutes on any given night how is this a problem, again? He'll still never foul out of a game.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...103060DAL.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...102160DAL.html