Manu played with a broken arm?!

[jjktkk]

Ginoboli obviously couldn't of done to stop the Grizz front line from pounding the Spurs front line into submission, but a healthy Ginoboli scoring, getting his teammates involved and his ability to get under his opponent's skin, might have made the difference in the series.

[monosylab1k]

Why do people in here act like Argentina gives a about basketball?

lol don't act like he isn't in the top 5 greatest national heroes in Argentina history.

1. Hitler
2. Maradona
3. Evita
4. Ginobili
5. Messi

[picc84]

So what? Pau played with a broken heart and everybody knew about it...

Thats completely different. He's a Laker.

[HarlemHeat37]

That I strongly disagree with, OKC doesn't present the matchup problems that the Grizzles did.

I agree, actually, after thinking about it..I don't think they beat Dallas though..

[Brazil]

I'm not saying you have an excuse, I'm saying a healthy Manu (who was effectively the Spurs' best player this year) would have made a difference.

I also think (but didn't say) you can never expect Manu to be healthy for the playoffs anymore, and that a healthy Rudy Gay could have made it so a healthy Manu didn't matter.

And yeah, memphis won 3 of the last 5, but it was simply a home team wins each game series sans the game Manu was injured. If the Spurs won all their home games, they win the series.

It took a manu miracle to take game 5

I really don't believe at all an healthy manu would have changed the result of the serie.

Our bench has been outplayed, our PG too, our wings RJ, our bigs... well see the Randolph/Gasol production. Kind of hard to win a serie with one dominant player (potentially Manu healthy). I don't see it

[Muser]

I agree, actually, after thinking about it..I don't think they beat Dallas though..

Only team with a chance of beating Dallas is Miami.

[Bill_Brasky]

If, would be, if, if

[FkLA]

It took a manu miracle to take game 5

I really don't believe at all an healthy manu would have changed the result of the serie.

Our bench has been outplayed, our PG too, our wings RJ, our bigs... well see the Randolph/Gasol production. Kind of hard to win a serie with one dominant player (potentially Manu healthy). I don't see it

Randolph played like he was God, you could call some of his shots especially those crucial 3s miracles. But regardless of whether they were miracles or not, the bottom line is that like KO mentioned the home team won every game with the exception of the one Manu didnt play...and even that game was very winnable. The Spurs were in control until that french got decided to take an ill-advised shot and followed that up by sagging off of Battier. I dont think its that far-fetched to say that with Manu the Spurs win solely because of the HCA.

[jjktkk]

Only team with a chance of beating Dallas is Miami.

Actually its the other way around tbh.

[jjktkk]

It took a manu miracle to take game 5

I really don't believe at all an healthy manu would have changed the result of the serie.

Our bench has been outplayed, our PG too, our wings RJ, our bigs... well see the Randolph/Gasol production. Kind of hard to win a serie with one dominant player (potentially Manu healthy). I don't see it

The thing with Ginoboli, when hes healthy, is he makes his teammates better, which includes the bench. Blair is a much better player with Ginoboli on the floor. Same with RJ, Hill, etc... The only Ginoboli can't do is make the Spurs pourous front line better.

[Brazil]

Randolph played like he was God, you could call some of his shots especially those crucial 3s miracles. But regardless of whether they were miracles or not, the bottom line is that like KO mentioned the home team won every game with the exception of the one Manu didnt play...and even that game was very winnable. The Spurs were in control until that french got decided to take an ill-advised shot and followed that up by sagging off of Battier. I dont think its that far-fetched to say that with Manu the Spurs win solely because of the HCA.

Randolph played great against OKC too it's not like he was playing the best bb of his life during this serie in particular.


Anyway if we were so close to win only one home game, I suppose we would have won OKC (like Harlem and DAF I think OKC is a better matchup for us) so we reach WCF, so I guess we need just slight improvements to be contender again next year and pray to not play Memphis with Gay ?


That's BS IMHO they dominated us on every aspect of the game.

[Brazil]

The thing with Ginoboli, when hes healthy, is he makes his teammates better, which includes the bench. Blair is a much better player with Ginoboli on the floor. Same with RJ, Hill, etc... The only Ginoboli can't do is make the Spurs pourous front line better.

I know Ginobili is good but come on, even Manu couldn't help RJ, Blair fat ass or Matty 20% FG PO carreer

[jjktkk]

Randolph played great against OKC too it's not like he was playing the best bb of his life during this serie in particular.


Anyway if we were so close to win only one home game, I suppose we would have won OKC (like Harlem and DAF I think OKC is a better matchup for us) so we reach WCF, so I guess we need just slight improvements to be contender again next year and pray to not play Memphis with Gay ?


That's BS IMHO they dominated us on every aspect of the game.

Next year Memphis will have a problem with Gay. Gay is a great scorer, who demands the ball. Randolph demands touches, and now Gasol will want more touches as well. Its a nice problem to have, but the Grizz will need some strong leadership to make sure this potentially doesn't become a big problem for such a young team.

[Brazil]

Next year Memphis will have a problem with Gay. Gay is a great scorer, who demands the ball. Randolph demands touches, and now Gasol will want more touches as well. Its a nice problem to have, but the Grizz will need some strong leadership to make sure this potentially doesn't become a big problem for such a young team.

I'm not sure Gasol will want more touches I think he is fine with 12/14 pts per game. He is taking today 10 to 12 attempts per game with or without Gay. Gay will take shots from Allen / Conley IMO which is not a bad thing.

[ogait]

Manu is a though player, thanks for pointing it out OP but we already knew that.

Manu was injured in the playoffs yet again. Also nothing new and it doesn't serve as an excuse for the Spurs sucking.

[DMC]

lol don't act like he isn't in the top 5 greatest national heroes in Argentina history.

1. Hitler
2. Maradona
3. Evita
4. Ginobili
5. Messi

Nice Googling.

[Killakobe81]

so what? Pau played with a broken heart and everybody knew about it...

lol