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    So much for "compassionate conservatism".

    "We will help you out, if our demands are met." Really? That's what they are going with?

    Cantor demands spending-cut ransom for Missouri aid
    The scenes out of Joplin, Missouri, are just horrific. The death toll from the deadliest single U.S. twister in generations stands at least 116 people, and rescue workers continue a frantic search for survivors. President Obama will be in the area over the weekend, and obviously the area qualifies for federal disaster relief.

    It’s hard to believe, but House Republicans aren’t sure if they’re prepared to spend the money to assist the victims and community.

    The No. 2 House Republican said that if Congress doles out additional money to assist in the aftermath of natural disasters across the country, the spending may need to be offset.

    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said “if there is support for a supplemental, it would be accompanied by support for having pay-fors to that supplemental.”

    Finding ways to offset disaster relief funds could be a significant challenge for House Republicans and would put their promise to cut spending to a true test.



    I don’t expect much from House Republicans, but this has managed to actually surprise me. When disaster strikes and there are deadly consequences, federal officials are expected to put aside politics and ideology, and commit whatever’s necessary to help.

    Indeed, the far-right Washington Times noted* today that Tom DeLay, when he was the House Majority Leader, believed emergency disaster relief should be immediate, without regard for offsetting cuts. “It is right to borrow to pay for it,” DeLay said at the time, adding that cuts could undermine the economy.

    Congratulations, Eric Cantor. You’ve made Tom DeLay look like a moderate, and created an environment in which Democrats wish he were back as Majority Leader.

    What’s more, Travis Waldron also noted that, despite the recent tornado disasters, Republicans are also trying to gut tornado forecasting services.

    * In context, the Washington Times was making the point that DeLay was wrong and Cantor is right. It’s an admittedly right-wing newspaper. Still, the contrast with Cantor and DeLay is important.
    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/pol..._ran029799.php

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    i have no sympathy for people who choose to live in a place where tornados can occur.

    thats my wc impression.

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    “if there is support for a supplemental, it would be accompanied by support for having pay-fors to that supplemental.”
    Wish this at ude had been more prevalent during 43's administration and earlier in this one, for that matter. Wars are effing expensive too.

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    Republicans gave Wisconsin to the Dems when they went after the unions. They handed over Florida with "Ryancare" and now they are looking to give up another swing state.

    They're making 2012 too easy for Obama.

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    house and contects insurance, dont hey buy this policy anymore? or the insurance companies wont sell these policys to ppl who live in those areas with high % natural disasters?

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    I bet they won't hold aid to Israel hostage.

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    "the insurance companies wont sell these policys"

    nope, the insurance companies jack up premiums for everybody, and sell/spread the risk into the re-insurance market.

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    Doesn't Pakiskam deserve 1 billion a year in aid before Joplin, MO citizens should be handed anything?

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    house and contects insurance, dont hey buy this policy anymore? or the insurance companies wont sell these policys to ppl who live in those areas with high % natural disasters?
    They do, but the premiums are pretty hefty, and large scale disasters often cause insurers to stop writing in a region. That happened here in Texas back with Hurrican Celia in 1970. Insurers just stopped covering the area, so TX had to create a state GSE to handle windstorm and hail (a lot like the federal government does with flood).

    Insurance companies are s .

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    Back on point, Cantor is an idiot. Domestic disaster relief should not worry about pay-fors. That's just ridiculous.

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    *slaps head*

    Sorry, I should have known you would have been all over this one.

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    I bet they won't hold aid to Israel hostage.
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    They do, but the premiums are pretty hefty, and large scale disasters often cause insurers to stop writing in a region. That happened here in Texas back with Hurrican Celia in 1970. Insurers just stopped covering the area, so TX had to create a state GSE to handle windstorm and hail (a lot like the federal government does with flood).

    Insurance companies are s .

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    Back on point, Cantor is an idiot. Domestic disaster relief should not worry about pay-fors. That's just ridiculous.
    everyone knows insurance are usually scams anyway, ppl dont usually make claims afraid next year premiums go up, or they payout below what you covered for....

    then again those ppl who live in those areas that occurs every year, are fkn dumb not takin out insurance on the most precious asset in a person life is the family home...

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    house and contects insurance, dont hey buy this policy anymore? or the insurance companies wont sell these policys to ppl who live in those areas with high % natural disasters?
    It usually takes a while for the insurance companies to process claims. I've heard stories that after Katrina, some insurers were just writing off vehicles without inspecting them, the claim numbers were so high. (Given the destruction I witness, I'd think it credible.) The government payments are emergency funds to help dislocated families.

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    They do, but the premiums are pretty hefty, and large scale disasters often cause insurers to stop writing in a region. That happened here in Texas back with Hurrican Celia in 1970. Insurers just stopped covering the area, so TX had to create a state GSE to handle windstorm and hail (a lot like the federal government does with flood).

    Insurance companies are s .
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    I believe there was a big furor when All-State refused to insure people in the Gulf Coast area near the coast. (Also, All-State and State Farm tried to screw a lot of people over during that time, IIRC.)

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    14 trillion in debt folks.

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    It usually takes a while for the insurance companies to process claims. I've heard stories that after Katrina, some insurers were just writing off vehicles without inspecting them, the claim numbers were so high. (Given the destruction I witness, I'd think it credible.) The government payments are emergency funds to help dislocated families.
    if ur a wrecker i say buy them write off vehicles pull them apart and sell the parts....

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    So much for "compassionate conservatism".

    "We will help you out, if our demands are met." Really? That's what they are going with?



    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/pol..._ran029799.php
    Another in a long chain of counter-intuitive moves by the GOP. I don't understand much of anything they're trying to accomplish these days.

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    if ur a wrecker i say buy them write off vehicles pull them apart and sell the parts....
    I know there were some people who said their vehicle was wrecked/unsalvageable after Katrina when their cars probably only had minor damage.

    Edit: Not mine though, sadly. Sunroof was smashed in, and the interior was flooded. The car was moved about half a block away from where it was parked. (I was deployed at the time, and my friend who was taking care of it had to shelter on base so he couldn't take it with him.)

    You should've seen Keesler (and most of Biloxi) after Katrina. Everything was thrown about, cars littered all over random parking lots, skewed sideways.

    I miss my LHS. It was like a couch with wheels.

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    That's because Republicans hate black people, old people, and tornado victims. Oh, and the Mexicans.


    Now finish your Kool-Aid, before it gets warm.

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    That's because Republicans hate black people, old people, and tornado victims. Oh, and the Mexicans.


    Now finish your Kool-Aid, before it gets warm.
    They may not hate tornado victims, but they sure don't look like they're taking much pity on them with this move.

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    That's because Republicans hate black people, old people, and tornado victims. Oh, and the Mexicans.


    Now finish your Kool-Aid, before it gets warm.
    irony alert!..kool aid drinker calls other people.. ???

    you guessed it.. kool aid drinkers!

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    They may not hate tornado victims, but they sure don't look like they're taking much pity on them with this move.

    Yeah, it is pretty dumb.

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    looking for the taxpayer for a bailout

    dont even start with charities for this event, we all know admin takes up half the costs, the other half you wont even see a penny of it maybe 6months down the road, or ppl trying to cheat the charity with bogus claims


    like the we had down here a few years ago with the bushfires, some ppl were living in ty houses with no insurance probably about 150k-200k market value so a majority didnt buy house insurance cause if you look at some of the houses, is like a fkn shed anyway...and the bailout from the govt and charities? they want to build $500k 6 star fire proof homes for each homeowner

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    Back on point, Cantor is an idiot. Domestic disaster relief should not worry about pay-fors. That's just ridiculous.
    Everything our government does should worry about pay-fors. Cantor is an idiot because the time & place to worry about paying for disaster aid for a specific event is AFTER said aid has been rendered. Not before.

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