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The worst thing about his contract is the length. Under the proposed new CBA, that last year his salary will be 26.7% of the cap for his team. That's a lot for a volume chucker.
His contract isn't that bad, especially when you compare him to guys with equal contracts.
The worst thing about his contract is the length. Under the proposed new CBA, that last year his salary will be 26.7% of the cap for his team. That's a lot for a volume chucker.
The fact is that he is way better than Rj. So if we can trade Rj and some trash for him you have to do it. That said it's not going to happen.
I think this has to be the most comments for any thread I posted!
Back on topic, I agree that Bargnani is neither a great rebounder nor a good shot blocker for his size.
However, two of the things that the Spurs need in the worse way are youth and size. At 25 years old and 7'0'', he satisfies both of those. Plus, an 82% career FT shooter would be a nice contrast from the traditionally bad Spurs FT shooter.
He's still young enough for his defense to come around, and he is already solid enough on offense.
Bottom line, if the Spurs can find a way to get him and get rid of Bonner and/or Jefferson, they should pull the trigger on it.
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bring over bargnani, belinelli and gallinari. thats the future right there
if mr bargnani means matt bonner is gone then yeah ill give up matts choke job on offense/defense when a game actually means something...
im sure bargnani makes more shots than bonner in clutch, and im tired of seeing that redhead pass the ball while hes wide open. pathetic dweeb, ill take bargnani any day why is this even a question what option do we really have?
Ryan Richards on the way....
If you do a trade for Bargnani, the next step would be to get defensive minded SF who is also a good rebounder.
For example, a scenario that would makes sense for Spurs is:
RJ+#29 for Childress.
Bonner+Dice for Bargnani.
trade Hill to move up to late lottery if Singleton falls.
Still a pipe dream, I know.
Anyways, Colangelo is in love with Bargnani and isn't giving him up for trash like RJ and a 29th pick. It's part of BC's ego, sticking with Bargnani to prove that he was right to take him.
Maybe if the Spurs lucked out Hill and Blair added to any other combination of players would be enough.
Uh, he doesn't rebound and he doesn't defend. He's also demonstrated no interest in playing in the post. You figure it out., so now every 4/5 white guy who can shoot is now compared to Bonner.. Bargnani has all-star type talent is much better than Bonner.
While Bonner has a ty skill-set, at least he does try.
Damn, I just defended Bonner? That's how bad this has become.
Bottom line, the Spurs already have two terrible defenders on their frontline. They don't need another.
Spurs would likely have to give up Hill + Blair if they were going to pawn off RJ to the Raptors for Bargnani.
Something like RJ + Blair + Hill + 1st for Andrea + fillers. Even then your not sure if the Raptors do that. Throw in Bonner if he has positive value.
Bonner shouldn't be compared to Bargnani... its like comparing Al Jefferson to a prime Tim Duncan because they both have a good post game. Andrea is 7'0 and has a strong base which allows him not to be treated like a 12 year old child when being posted up by a big man.. the same cant be said for Bonner. He's also a tough cover on iso's and causes alot of matchup problems for opposing big men because of his ability to put the ball on the floor.. plus his shooting ability speaks for itself.
Huge upgrade.
I wouldn't trade a lot for Bargnani. I wouldn't even include Blair, Anderson or Hill for him.
Bargnani is a damn talented player and while I think some of his struggles could be solved in SA, there are some huge red flags surrounding him.
Rebounding is a huge red flag.
March 2010:
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/feature...3/22/bargnani/
He followed these statements by having his worst rebounding season with 5.2 rebounds per 36 minutes which is comparable to Manu's production on the board.Bargnani is asked how he gets beat on the boards.
"Being lazy maybe," he says. "That's the only reason it can be. I've got the body, I've got everything to take 10 rebounds a game. It's just sometimes I get lazy."
On top of that, Bargnani has a big contract that will get even bigger thanks to a 5% trade bonus. Adding incentives in addition of taking this contract is too much. RJ + #29 or Dice +Bonner (if Spurs has another deal on the table to trade RJ for a defensive minded SF) should be Spurs best offer. If Raptors don't like that, they can keep Bargnani.
Anyone, litterally, but Bargnano.
I've watched Bargnani for some years now. He has the POTENTIAL to be what the Spurs want (at least in alot of areas). 1 - He can shoot from anywhere and can create his own shot off the dribble and sometimes in the post area 2 - He is a legit 7 footer with extra long arms 3 - He is quick and mobile on the offensive end, and at times has shown the ability to stay in front of the athletic and quick 4's in the league. 4 - He can block shots in help situations and because of his long arms he can do so in one on one situations.
That all sounds great, BUT due to piss poor coaching and a lack of effort he is a poor rebounder and can be lazy offensively (settling for fadeways when he can drive or post up). Rebounding and a Work Ethic (2 things that usually dont get better with time) are the reason he probably would never wear a Spurs jersey.
He has the ability to be a much better rebounder, Defender, Shotblocker and Scorer than Bonner, but unlike Bonner he gives no effort. Matt Bonner just SUCKS in the above categories but he tries hard. Bargnani, as big of a fan of him as I am is simply lazy. And I dont know if even Pop can work a summer with someone who is unwilling.
He actually admit that he's lazy? What an honest guy. That translates into a deliberately low motor. Pass.
+1. Its bad enough hes soft, but he admits hes lazy too?
Yep, that's bad. Bargnani is also at least 20 lbs too heavy. If Spurs do a trade for Bargnani, there will have a lot of psychological and physical work to do. It would be a huge gamble to make but can Spurs really improve their team without taking that kind of gamble?
The Spurs never managed to stay clear of lazy players with low desires. They've had any interest in the Benoit Benjamins, Joe Barry Carrolls, or Michael Olawakandi's of the NBA. For those of you who don't remember them, all were players who were talented bigs, yet their careers were derailed because they were chronically lazy. If they passed on players like that, wHh in the world would they suddenly start salivating over a lazy player like Bargnani? I know he's a Euro, and Pop favors Euros, but I'd be shocked if he was interested in ths dude.
Well, I'm not a fan at all of Spurs adding Bargnani. I'm more in "a desperate time, desperate answer" state of mind.
I'm sure he would be well vetted, and at least would have to convince Pop and RC that he's willing to work his ass off, before they brought him down. That's a pretty stupid thing to say in the press about his laziness, unless it's true....
It could just be a misunderstanding of connotation we have of "lazy". He may have meant to say that he just needed to work harder.
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