^ Tyler "highly doubts" he'll get stuck on the bench all season because he's "physically ready to play here."
Gregg Popovich has a surprise for you.
Yeah, that was the one trouble spot in the interview. Considering his reaction to not getting minutes in Israel, it's not exactly what you want to hear. But otherwise, his interviews have apparently been solid. He's done a lot for himself and looks to be moving into that late first round/early second round area.
I agree I liked the interview overall. I prefer a player with confidence and he is confident in his abilities, nothing wrong with that. Judging by the interview he has tempered it with experience and a reasonably humble at ude.
I guess my post was an oblique reference to/criticism of the whole Tiago situation - the most polished defensive player we've had in half a decade at a peak of his prime... You know the rest.
Following last weekend's Pre-Draft Combine, Tyler has apparently impressed teams enough to have possibly positioned himself into the first round.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft...5/jeremy-tyler
May 23 Update: Jeremy Tyler continued to wow NBA teams on Friday with his athleticism, physical profile and defense. He measured out as the second-biggest player at the combine. He was 6-11, 260 with a huge 7-5 wing and a 9-2 standing reach. Tyler told me he believed he'll have a 40-inch vertical, which is a fantastic number for a player his size. His measurements are on par with Cole Aldrich's and just below DeAndre Jordan's. Tyler also scored very high marks from NBA teams on his interviews. His offensive game is still a work in progress and there are still some skeletons in his closet from his botched season in Israel. But on sheer physical upside, Tyler played himself into a possible first-round pick with his week here. A number of teams, including the Knicks, Nuggets, Rockets and Spurs, are giving him a look in the first.
And in his latest version of his mock draft, guess which team ESPN's Chad Ford has predicted will select Tyler in the first round?
Mock Draft Projection
San Antonio Spurs
(No. 29 Pick)
Analysis: The Spurs have done a good job over the years of finding young international players and stashing them overseas for a few years until they're ready. Tyler doesn't quite fit that model. He stashed himself overseas … but the point is he's got tremendous upside for a team willing to be patient with him. Given the strong reaction to Tyler at the predraft camp, I'm not sure he lasts this long on the draft board.
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40 Inch vertical my ass, he topped out at 33.5...Tyler told me he believed he'll have a 40-inch vertical, which is a fantastic number for a player his size.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-...=0&pos=0&sort=
You think?
He's not jumping even 35, he's jumping 33.5. He'll never jump 40. If he trains real hard, he might get to right around 35, maybe 36. You don't ever add 6.5 inches to your vertical, not even if needles are involved.
Again, let all these measurement wonders move into the 1st so those who actually have game can fall to the spurs...
I dunno. I do not want to be negative but it looks like the guy is trying to be a fake nice/matured guy in the interviews just to get a contract.
I would never draft this guy with a 1st round pick. Way too many bad thing is his past to believe that he suddenly has changed.
yes, wouldn't you "fake nice/matured guy" in an interview to get a contract in the NBA? I would say 80-90 % of these prospects are coached up prior to these interviews so the y can come across as knowledgable and dedicated..Nothing wrong with that, but the fact is nobody knows anything about Tyler's game since he's been MIA for a couple of years. Yes, he can run, jump, good size, but can the kid actually play a team oriented game of basketball?
When he was here in San Diego, he was a Man amongst Boys. But I don't know if he's in it mentally. Physical tools yes, reminds me of 1 Jackie Butler. Now...I root for San Diego but my choice going in would be for Malcolm Thomas. If the Spurs get Tyler, I'm okay with that but let's hope he's mature enough.
I recall Brandon Jennings not dominating in Italy but when he got to Milwaukee, the kid's been solid.
Phila,
Do you have a read on Jeremy Tyler versus Nikola Vucevic?
So you believe they will trading up (or at least trying) in an attempt for a more sure fire rookie? Who do you see as that kind of player? I have long wanted trey thompkins from georgia and am hoping he is on the radar..
If they do go the trade route, I hope it's for a promising young big to replace Dice. One who has more of his career in front of him, rather than behind him. It would just make no sense in investing in a veteran big, with a hefty price tag. And as you stated, they could still take a young big via the draft. After all, they'll be in the market for yet another big to step in once Duncan retires. May as well get someone in the pipeline now.
How many promising young bigs have you seen salary dumped in the NBA over the years?
I believe you're reading too much into this. A promising, yet under-developed, young big could possible be had via trade. Think Jason Thompson (SAC).
I dont think I am, why would Sac. trade Thompson for Mcdyess when they are already around 20 mil. under the cap? All I am saying is that 90% of players who are traded for expiring contracts are usually older players with multiple years left on there own contract and the team needs to decrease there own salary.
Becaus a team like Sac is flowing red financially, there's no doubt that in order for the Spurs to get such a young player, in this dream scenario, they would likely have to take back a bad contract. Hey, I'm not even saying such a scenario is possible. In fact, I agree with you that the chances are unlikely they'd be able to find such a partner and and such a deal, where they wouldn't have to cripple themselves financially to make it happen.
Frankly, I'd prefer they just take the best big in the draft @ #29, and call it a day.
When you first read about this possible trade you almost think its a no brainer and that the spurs would do this trade , but after thinking about a lakers starting lineup of TP-Kobe-Artest-Odom-Gasol, I would do a double take as well, thats a scary starting 5..
Is that verified/measured, or just your seat of the pants guess? I'll give you MY seat of the pants guess: nobody ing improves their vertical 8 inches. I can see him maybe jumping 33-34 now, but that figure you quoted is bull . If he could do it, everyone would be doing it, and no one would be able to put up a layup in the NBA without getting it swatted into the 30th row.
I thought this was Tyler thread?
I don't see anything in your list that everyone couldn't do. I'm not saying he hasn't increased his vert, I'm just calling bull on 8 inches. The 1.5 to 2.5 that I proposed would be a huge vertical increase, like 8% on the top end.
No trained athlete is capable of increasing their vert 25+%, which is what you're saying he did, from 31.5 to 39.5. That would be like Usain Bolt increasing his workout and working on form and running a 7 second 100 Meter dash.
It can be done, but it has to be over time, we mean over a course of a few years, with real hard work.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/we...ne-403374.html
Adam Archuleta went from 26 inch vert to 39 inches.
When you think about it, with over a 9 ft. standing reach, he doesn't really need to jump that high. With his standing reach combined with his max vert of 33.5", he reaches a 12ft apex on his shot block/dunk attempt. 2ft above the rim is pretty solid for a man with his build and weight.
Here is a quick draft comparison with a known superstar at his position. Please note that this is not an analytical comparison of basketball skill, but athletic ability.
According to DraftExpress, Amare Stoudemire had pre-draft measurements with a max verticle of 35.5". He was also 20+lbs lighter than Tyler. When you do the math on it, Stoudemire also had the exact same 12ft apex as Tyler when you combine their standing reach + max vertical measurements.
Everyone views Stoudemire as an athletic freak, well imagine a heavier person able to reach the exact same height as a young Stoudemire. Hopefully this puts some sort of perspective on the subject. If someone wants to avoid getting blocked by Tyler, they need to get that ball 12'9" high, otherwise, it is going to be a solid contest and possible block.
The more I think about this guy, the more I would absolutely LOVE him to be on the Spurs. There are definitely questions of his maturity, but being in the Spurs organization could actually do some good for him. If he is a hard worker and truly desires to improve his game, then this guy could be a diamond in the rough. He has an excellent combination of weight/length/strength/athleticism to battle with an Andrew Bynum, or Dwight Howard on the low block. (Dwight Howard was around 15 lbs lighter than Tyler but using same measuring method, he only had a 12'1" apex. Bynum also had a 12'1" apex.) I believe that if he can at least learn the defensive side of the court, this kid could stick for a long time.
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