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    Which one's aren't for profit? Seriously, I'm curious.
    The vast majority aren't for profit. State schools and most older private schools do not make profits. Places like Devry and Phoenix are for profit and as a result don't really focus on students the same way since its all about the bottom line.

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    If that's the case, then the reputation of the school probably matters a little more. Also, you should contact the school and inquire about placement rates post-graduation.
    True, i need to research that a little. Purdue has a pretty highly regarded program in this field...they have been offering it for over 35 years and many of their staff are leaders in the field of instructional design and technology.

    I just balk at the price (22k for a 2 year program) and i would LOVE to avoid taking the GRE if i could. lol....

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    How do you figure?


    Seriously, aren't they all "for profit"? The school I graduated from charges such a ridiculous amount of f'ing money, and that was 10 years ago......I can't imagine what they are charging nowadays.

    No one or no school does something to better mankind......they do it for money......period.
    No they are care for education. See they make you take classes you don't need and most likely will never use in your major field because ....well.....you see...like...cause..



    Yeah they all for profit.
    Most schools do not make a profit. That doesn't mean they are cheap. That means they don't charge more than it costs in some way shape or form. In other words, UT charges what it takes to break even. U of Phoenix charges whatever it takes to pay what it costs them AND make a profit - hence for profit.

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    The vast majority aren't for profit. State schools and most older private schools do not make profits. Places like Devry and Phoenix are for profit and as a result don't really focus on students the same way since its all about the bottom line.
    But really though? They don't make any profit? I guess I just find that totally hard to believe.......it seems like politicians to me.....they aren't for profit either, but you know those suckers are making money, lots of it (besides their salaries).


    This could be strictly bitterness on my end though. So what the do I know?

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    Appreciate the spot to brainstorm a bit. I am going to call Walden in the morning and listen to their pitch on what they offer.

    I already am most of the way through the acceptance process at Purdue, i just need to take the GRE and pay the app fee...I just started second guessing my choice again today. Opening this ing GRE study guide tends to do that.

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    SP if I were you I would take the GRE (assuming you haven't yet) and take it from there. Which is more expensive? Do you want to be able to do your job well or do you just want the piece of paper (I assume Perdue is highly regarded for a reason) Talk to professionals in your fiend and find their opinion on whether or not it matters.

    Right off the bat I would lean to Perdue but really it should be the professionals within your field who have the opinions that matter.

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    But really though? They don't make any profit? I guess I just find that totally hard to believe.......it seems like politicians to me.....they aren't for profit either, but you know those suckers are making money, lots of it (besides their salaries).


    This could be strictly bitterness on my end though. So what the do I know?
    They definitely do not make profits. Public schools function off of tax dollars, tuition and fees. Private non profit schools function off of endowments, other alumni donations, tuition and fees. But the books are very much public information due to their status as non profits.

    Thats not to say there aren't people making money. Obviously administrators and professors don't work for free. But overall the school as an organization does not make a profit.

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    Talk to professionals in your fiend and find their opinion on whether or not it matters.

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    WTF Manny? Are you saying that talking to these people you've mentioned is a better outlet for information than spurstalk.com?

    What the is wrong with you?


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    They definitely do not make profits. Public schools function off of tax dollars, tuition and fees. Private non profit schools function off of endowments, other alumni donations, tuition and fees. But the books are very much public information due to their status as non profits.

    Thats not to say there aren't people making money. Obviously administrators and professors don't work for free. But overall the school as an organization does not make a profit.
    Sadly.....I didn't really know that.

    You know who does make money though? The suckers that I just finally paid off my student loans too.

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    Appreciate the spot to brainstorm a bit. I am going to call Walden in the morning and listen to their pitch on what they offer.

    I already am most of the way through the acceptance process at Purdue, i just need to take the GRE and pay the app fee...I just started second guessing my choice again today. Opening this ing GRE study guide tends to do that.
    Don't expect to walk into a GRE exam and get a good score without work put in. I know you recently graduated but if I remember correctly this was after a fairly lengthy layoff from school so make sure you study your ass off.

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    SP if I were you I would take the GRE (assuming you haven't yet) and take it from there. Which is more expensive? Do you want to be able to do your job well or do you just want the piece of paper (I assume Perdue is highly regarded for a reason) Talk to professionals in your fiend and find their opinion on whether or not it matters.

    Right off the bat I would lean to Perdue but really it should be the professionals within your field who have the opinions that matter.
    I agree Manny. When i first decided this, the only program i found was Walden. I mentioned it to three different IDs i know and they all said, " ya, that should be great for your career." That was before i found and talked with the admission office at Purdue. More i read and more i found out about it, the more I liked. I also liked the idea of being associated with a proper university. The people i talked to seem to think a degree is a degree is a degree, which i mentioned Purdue, they didnt really have an opinion on it either way, only saying "cool man go for it" My only issue with that is most of them only have a bachelors and were given preference for their jobs because they are prior military. Basically they didn't have to compete like you or I do for their job, so they aren't seeing it through the same eyes.

    Going to go upstairs and unwind, thanks for all the advice though, check back tomorrow.

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    Sadly.....I didn't really know that.

    You know who does make money though? The suckers that I just finally paid off my student loans too.
    Yeah, that was such a huge scam I'm extremely glad the government has put a stop to it. Companies like Sally Mae were making money on loans with zero risk while the tax payers backed them and got nothing out of it. Made no ing sense.

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    Don't expect to walk into a GRE exam and get a good score without work put in. I know you recently graduated but if I remember correctly this was after a fairly lengthy layoff from school so make sure you study your ass off.
    oh i know...believe me. the study guide itself is already scaring me. Im so out of touch with the math it is silly...that is part of the reason i am thinking maybe im in over my head going to Purdue.

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    You're not over your head but I assume your degree didn't require over college algebra. Math goes the fastest, IMO, but Jess says that there really wasn't anything worse than that on the exam. You should also check with UTSA as they may have resources available to you as an alum to help you prepare for the exam.

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    Jekka says the SA public library has a bunch of practice GREs you can do online for free as long as you've got a card.

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    Also, and on a total side note, I still dislike and have very little respect for college prof's. Out of the many I've met, only a handful could actually work in "the real world".

    imho
    "He who can, does. He who cannot, teaches."

    Professors even suck at teaching, tbh.

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    Jekka says the SA public library has a bunch of practice GREs you can do online for free as long as you've got a card.
    Manny, did you take the GRE? How did you do?

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    Many corporations don't reimburse tuition expense at "for profit" universities, while they do at other schools. A University of Phoenix degree is not as highly thought of as one from Purdue for example. It might not make a difference now, but it could in the future if you were to look for a job elsewhere.

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    Manny, did you take the GRE? How did you do?
    I have to graduate before I can take it.

    I'll let you know in a few semesters though.

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    Many corporations don't reimburse tuition expense at "for profit" universities, while they do at other schools. A University of Phoenix degree is not as highly thought of as one from Purdue for example.
    Yeah, Intel doesn't even recognize it, so I can't imagine they are super eager to hire people from there.

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    I'm sorry I didn't pop into this one earlier.... you all may hate me and consider me a dumb blonde at times but consider this...I am in Top 10 Masters of Social Work program right now.

    The program is also online. I would ask a lot of questions about the layout of the programs. Is Purdue new? I haven't heard of them having a program...just a quick google search it says its a new program. I am in the first group of people taking online classes at USC (holy cow let's talk student loans) and there are many kinks as far as schedules, course work, professors, etc. How is the technology? Is it sound or have other programs had any stumbling points? Is this an online program only? If not, does it mirror the program that is offered "on the ground" - i.e.- are you really getting a Purdue education? I had one professor that was old school Trojan..she was such a bad ass. I loved it. Ask them who runs the platform (as you know about the platforms and all that stuff..right?) see what their reputation is...our's is run through 2tor and aside from running across one of the employees on twitter I can't highly recommend their platform.

    With Walden, while it is generally a for-profit school, I don't know what type of technology kinks they would have because it is primarily discussion and popwerpoint based, right? And since they have been around more and have a ton of people to support it there are always people there to help out with it. Sure it's a for-profit school but the lack of kinks could be worth it.

    But, think of the connections you get with the alumni associated with Purdue. They are scattered all over the place. That was the main reason I chose USC, name recognition and its program. Oh, and I didn't have to take the GRE.

    Good luck!

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    I'm sorry I didn't pop into this one earlier.... you all may hate me and consider me a dumb blonde!
    I stopped reading here.

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    I stopped reading here.

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    I'm sorry I didn't pop into this one earlier....
    I stopped reading here.

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    Also, you should contact the school and inquire about placement rates post-graduation.
    This. I had a friend in grad school who ended up making her decision (both schools had great programs in the field) based on the fact that Michigan had an average job search of less than 3 months and Maryland was averaging about a year.

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