My main problem with RJ is that he is paid way too much. His big contract hurts Spurs by taking away their limited financial resources. If Spurs had basically unlimited financial resources like few teams in the league, RJ wouldn't be a that big problem.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4x8vb5r
would be nice..veteran help I guess, the twolves can bring over rubio, without giving up there pick, RJ was good as a number 2 option, and the twolves can use there pick to get a one of those Centers, or bring those 2 other centers they have stashed in Europe.
RJ's contract is the same length as 2 of the contracts, plus Twolves save about $2.5 million even with Mcdyess's Contract.
Last edited by Ditty; 05-24-2011 at 01:59 AM.
How is that realistic?
Would be great trade for the Spurs but non of those players you mentioned have enough trade value to get it done. Remember the other team has got to want to make the deal as well.
Spurs get: trade exemption
Cavs get: RJ and probably a pick of some sort
If cavs offered this to the spurs would want this to go down?
for the 1 or 4 pick, sure
, even for the last pick in this years draft I'd do this trade.
No, I think you misread what I wrote..To get rid of RJ's contract there must some kind of sweetner to go along with him, i suggested a 1st or 2nd rd pick from the spurs not the cavs..nice try thoughfor the 1 or 4 pick, sure
, even for the last pick in this years draft I'd do this trade.
As i said, i would focus on Minny
They have too many bigs and every single one of them would be available (expept for Love). And if they take Kanter with the 2nd pick, I am sure that one of Darko or Pekovic would be available for cheap. A guy like Pekovic would help us tremendously.
Better yet try to get a job in the front office because the guys there never seem to pull off anything.Sounds good, go ahead and pass it on to the spurs front office. Keep up the good work.
I certainly would contemplate it. I think we desperately need to move both Bonner and Jefferson. They simply don't have the mental toughness to play playoff ball. Therefore they MUST go for whatever we can get...
I've thought about this.
Unfortunately, what it would likely take is what the Clippers gave up to get the Cavs to take Davis' contract; an unprotected lottery pick. Obviously, the Spurs don't have that. So it would have be an unprotected pick at some point in the next few years. But even then, would the Cavs do it? It was a no brainer with the Clippers, because it was a guaranteed top ten pick.
I'm fairly certain Scott has a good relationship with Jefferson, having coached him with the Nets. With their cap space, Gilbert's willingness to spend and gaping hole at SF, they're probably the Spurs best bet when it comes to ridding themselves of Jefferson, without taking back bad contract(s).
Why not just trade TP, RJ and Dejuan Blair to the Cavs for Antawn Jamison and the 4th pick overall? That allows the Spurs to start rebuilding w/ youth (Hill gets more time as the starting PG), gets rid of RJ and, although I like Blair, he's too short to fit into Pop's defensive scheme. Plus, the Spurs shed some salary. The Cavs get rid of an aging PF who's due $15m next year, gain a great Final MVP caliber PG in his prime and still get to draft Derrick Williams that they've stated they want to do.
The Spurs just might have enough $ to attract Tayshaun Prince to play here. Also, Jamison (and Duncan's) contracts both would come off the books at the end of 12.
I know Manu is pretty much untouchable till he retires, but the following trade has crossed my mind. Would you make a trade whose core players are Manu for Roy?
Discuss.
I do think if the Spurs are serious about moving RJ (not sure they are) then the Cavs are the team to get on the phone - there are several possible scenarios - the above scenario isn't a bad one for the Spurs IMO assuming we go get a vet PG - not sure what the Cavs would think but they are one of the few teams where there are cir stances that may be favorable to unloading RJ
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3u68ppl
Everybody wins:
Portland gets size.
C - Oden, Diop
PF - Aldridge, White
SF - Wallace, Jefferson
SG - Roy, Matthews
PG - Miller, Mills
Charlotte gets even talent:
C - Camby, Pryzbilla
PF - Blair, Diaw
SF - Jackson, Livingston
SG - Fernandez, Anderson
PG - Agustin, Henderson
Spurs get athletic:
C - Duncan, Splitter, Richards
PF - Thomas, Bonner, Richards
SF - Batum, Butler, Green
SG - Manu, Neal, Green
PG - Parker, Hill, Neal
Every team's gonna be happy.
I believe a Jefferson, and our 1st round pick for Stephen Jackson could gain some attention from the bobcats, but that 4th year player option really is the kicker, but I hope the Jordan, and the bobcats front office have had enough of Jackson, both there contracts are similiar, and Jefferson is younger.
just wondering if this works......
scenario 1:
1) tony parker and jefferson for josh smith and marvin williams
2) Draft a true PG with the 29th pick and let hill be the starting PG....of course hill sucks but the trade could make the spurs a lot better in interior and perimeter D
3) Draft a backup center with the 59th
scenario 2:
1) tony parker and jefferson for josh smith and marvin williams
2) Draft a PF/C with the 29th pick
3) sign a PG for a portion of MLE or full MLE and let hill share minutes at PG
4) draft backup PG with 59th
I'm curious what the tank thinks of the trade proposed on Russilo's podcast today. Bonner/Parker for Pau Gasol. The Lakers fill their huge hole at point guard and get someone to run Mike Brown's system. Bonner, Odom, and Bynum divvy up Gasol's minutes.
The Spurs' frontcourt instantly become lengthy and elite defensively (Duncan/Gasol/Splitter), with a potent low post scorer. Their backcourt is deep enough to lose Parker when this is the tradeoff.
It all depends on how disenchanted the Lakers are with Gasol after the flameout, but I think the Spurs do it in a heartbeat.
Last edited by Jess; 06-01-2011 at 05:10 PM.
do it in a heartbeat.....benefits both teams....
Hate that trade. Splitter and Gasol are both finesse European players. Essentially, they're both softer Power Forwards. SA needs a CENTER (there is a difference). Nene or Tyson Chandler will both be FAs but don't know of the possibility of a sign and trade (SA doesn't have the cap room to sign outright).
Personnally, I'd be happier w/ a Parker, Jefferson, Splitter (or Blair) trade for Dwight Howard, Brandon Bass and Chris Duhon. Since Howard will be leaving after the upcoming year, Orlando can land some additional offense in TP and RJ and perhaps develop Splitter into something. They could trade Jameer Nelson to someone else for a backup PG and a 1st round draft pick (since they have none). SA gets the best center in the league, gets rid of RJ and a defensive SF in Bass. Duhon is thrown in to make the #s work and provide a backup PG for Hill.
Bass is a PF.
Is there a theoretical limit to how many picks you can get for 1 player? If we decide to blow it up, go long-term: trade Parker for multiple distant (unprotected) draft picks to a team in win-now mode. Maybe the 2018, 2020 picks. Do the same with other players if they want to go (Ginobili [2022, 2024], Duncan if he wants to [2026]).
We'd suck for a while, but imagine the juggernaut we could build with 4-5 years of lousy seasons/great draft picks, and then to have that team supplemented every other year with a lottery pick (delaying the inevitable decline from successful seasons/low draft picks).
I know it's far-fetched, I'm just curious if it's even possible in theory. The prospect of a middling level of success for an indefinite period of time unnerves me.
With Rubio going to Minnasota finally, I really think the Spurs need to take advantage of the situation. They have two PG's that would serve as good back up's and they would be willing to part with Darko to cut some salary. Here's what I propose
Spurs get:
Darko
Wes Johnson or Webster
Ridnour or Flynn
Timberwolves get:
McDyss
Hill
Jefferson
You could also through in Blar for Randolph too.
Ridnour>Hill at the pg position
Johnson or Webster > RJ
Darko is there only true center..
This makes sense for minny why....
Hill is moved to SG with Rubio coming in.
They take it for the young cheap talent in Hill and the cap space with Dyss.
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