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  1. #26
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    bron just be used to his -style of game imho, when the refs turn fair treating him like everyone else he feels cramped and plays bad supposedly

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    I guessed you missed the end of Game 2, as well as the 3 or 4 ty treys he chucked up tonight.


    Wade is the man, and he's proving it in the finals. LeBron is a great player, but he's 1B...this series has proven it thus far
    You missed the shot clock when he had it passed to him with no time left

    What about when he drives into 4 defenders and does not force the shot? What about the D he is playing and his rebounding?

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    That's actually why Lebron is the best player in the league, when he isn't shooting the ball well, he can help his team in all the other aspects of a basketball game in a way that nobody else can.
    Wade, Rose and Kobe have done that too. Point is that they are there for a strength, a role they have on the team, and filling in that role consistently is what separates the greats from the GOATs.

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    I'm not sure if you're watching the games, but he's getting the ball passed to him with 4 seconds on the shot clock. The ball has got to go up. LeBron has one of the highest, if not the highest, basketball IQ in the NBA.
    I'm not sure you've watched his whole career if you're using that excuse. He's notorious for holding the ball at the top of the key till the last 5 seconds anyways, so what's the difference if he gets the pass with 4-5 secs on the clock?

    People are just having a hard time accepting that LeBron will never be the man.

    He's a great player who's about to win his first ring, shouldn't that be enough for you guys?

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    Wade, Rose and Kobe have done that too. Point is that they are there for a strength, a role they have on the team, and filling in that role consistently is what separates the greats from the GOATs.
    Kobe and Rose don't contribute on D, and they're both inefficient chuckers..

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    People are just having a hard time accepting that LeBron will never be the man.
    Which is strange, because LeBron himself has accepted it. That's why he went to Miami, isn't it? So he wouldn't have to carry a team?

    Nothing wrong with being uber-Pippen. Scottie Pippen was a of a player.

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    DD's ass is leaking..he's reaching..his predictions were atrocious all year..

    He was claiming the Celtics would kill Miami, during the off-season..

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    You missed the shot clock when he had it passed to him with no time left

    What about when he drives into 4 defenders and does not force the shot? What about the D he is playing and his rebounding?
    Wade is playing excellent D as well, and he's far out-rebounding LeBron.

    You're taking this too personal. LeBron is great, but when a ring's on the line give me the closer (Wade).

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    Which is strange, because LeBron himself has accepted it. That's why he went to Miami, isn't it? So he wouldn't have to carry a team?

    Nothing wrong with being uber-Pippen. Scottie Pippen was a of a player.
    This is true

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    I think the Shaq analogy applies here. LeBron is the most dominant player in the league. But it's clear that "at times," he lacks an intangible to close. It's not all the time because he's had games in these playoffs and in past post seasons where he's closed. But something is missing sometimes. With Shaq it was all about the free throws. But with LeBron, it's like he's almost unsure of what to do. And with a guy like Wade by his side, it's almost easy to let Wade finish the game similar to the Lakers letting Kobe finish games.

    Without LeBron, I don't think the Heat even get passed Boston. Wade is obviously having the better Finals. But I'm still on board believing LeBron is the better player.

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    I think the Shaq analogy applies here. LeBron is the most dominant player in the league. But it's clear that "at times," he lacks an intangible to close. It's not all the time because he's had games in these playoffs and in past post seasons where he's closed. But something is missing sometimes. With Shaq it was all about the free throws. But with LeBron, it's like he's almost unsure of what to do. And with a guy like Wade by his side, it's almost easy to let Wade finish the game similar to the Lakers letting Kobe finish games.

    Without LeBron, I don't think the Heat even get passed Boston. Wade is obviously having the better Finals. But I'm still on board believing LeBron is the better player.
    This. Lebron may not be that transcendent player many thought he would be, but overall he is the best player and has been for a while.

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    LeBron is the most dominant player in the league. But it's clear that "at times," he lacks an intangible to close.
    I don't know if it's that. I just don't think he has the go-to offensive move. That's why he can look so off-kilter in these big games against good defensive teams. He doesn't have that move he can always go back to. It's either kamakazi charges into the lane or hero-type jumpers. When he isn't getting calls and the jumpers aren't dropping he doesn't have anything to fall back on.

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    DD's ass is leaking..he's reaching..his predictions were atrocious all year..

    He was claiming the Celtics would kill Miami, during the off-season..
    This has been Harlem's hardest night of the season. He'd rather the Heat lose than see LBJ miss out on Finals MVP

    Nice disclaimer: "in the offseason."


    Son how bout you ask me for more betting advice. Just look at your profile page. It's time to tell the misses who really puts the food on the table in your household.

    btw, you never sent me a pic of those earrings.

    Don't bite the hand that feeds you, rook

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    Wade is having a great finals but these guys are both amazing players. For the playoffs in 18 games Wade is giving you 24/7/4 on 47%. Lebron 25/9/5 on 47%.. This is really Batman and Superman here..

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    tbh if Miami goes up 3-1 we'll see LeBron dominate Game 5 cause there'll be no pressure.

    These are things we know

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    i don't know if it's that. I just don't think he has the go-to offensive move. That's why he can look so off-kilter in these big games against good defensive teams. He doesn't have that move he can always go back to. It's either kamakazi charges into the lane or hero-type jumpers. When he isn't getting calls and the jumpers aren't dropping he doesn't have anything to fall back on.
    this!

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    I don't know if it's that. I just don't think he has the go-to offensive move. That's why he can look so off-kilter in these big games against good defensive teams. He doesn't have that move he can always go back to. It's either kamakazi charges into the lane or hero-type jumpers. When he isn't getting calls and the jumpers aren't dropping he doesn't have anything to fall back on.
    That's an interesting take. Don't know if I completely agree, but it's insightful. I do think when teams come with a hard double on him in late game situations, he's too willing to go to a fade-away jumper.

    It's almost crazy to think of LeBron using it as a go-to move, but it would be something to see him develop a floater. Teams are so used to him charging the rim like a bull that if he learned to touch to make that shot, it seems like it would be pretty effective. It's just funny thinking of a 6'8, 250 pound guy using the floater. Could be good for him though.

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    This has been Harlem's hardest night of the season. He'd rather the Heat lose than see LBJ miss out on Finals MVP

    Nice disclaimer: "in the offseason."


    Son how bout you ask me for more betting advice. Just look at your profile page. It's time to tell the misses who really puts the food on the table in your household.

    btw, you never sent me a pic of those earrings.

    Don't bite the hand that feeds you, rook
    Finals MVP's are really over-rated.. Tony won it in 2007 in an easy sweep of the cavs but who was the best player in the 07 playoffs? Timmy Duncan was 22 and 12 on 52% for the playoffs..

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    LeBron needs a post game and has for years.

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    Wade is having a great finals but these guys are both amazing players. For the playoffs in 18 games Wade is giving you 24/7/4 on 47%. Lebron 25/9/5 on 47%.. This is really Batman and Superman here..
    I'll be the first to tell you that LeBron is having a great playoffs. He's been very underwhelming in the Finals though. Is LeBron even reaching regular season #'s in the finals? Sure, he's playing great defense, but so is Wade and neither of them are guarding Dirk, so don't fellate him for his D this series. It was deserved in the Chicago series, but he's just doing his part like Wade in the finals. They're both playing lockdown permiter D, playing the passing lanes, and Wade has actually been more active blocking it seems. Wade has also been a much better rebounder

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    Lebron is having one of the best playoffs of the post-Michael era..

    At some point in his career, he'll need a dominant Finals series(all the greats, minus Kobe, have hallmark Finals series'), but for this series, he would be stupid to take over more than Wade..Wade has the best matchup and he's a Finals legend..

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    Finals MVP's are really over-rated.. Tony won it in 2007 in an easy sweep of the cavs but who was the best player in the 07 playoffs? Timmy Duncan was 22 and 12 on 52% for the playoffs..
    Actually, outside of 2007 and 2010, the Finals MVP has been correct for as long as I can remember...

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    lebron haters are happy the heat won?

    lebron still made some good plays even if his offensive rhythm has been off. he doesn't just continue chucking the ball randomly. e.g. finding bosh on the game winning points. lebron still finds a way to impact his team positively by playing defense and making plays.

    as for finals mvp, i don't think lebron cares. he recognizes that d wade has the upper hand on the mavs and seems happy to reduce his shot attempts. he isn't going to pull a kobe like in 2003 and 2004.

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    We're only 3 games into the finals. These Lebron vs. Wade discussions are way too premature.

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    Actually, outside of 2007 and 2010, the Finals MVP has been correct
    Garnett was easily the best player in the '08 playoffs..

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