Meh, seemed like every time Chandler didn't get a rebound, foul on Heat.
He didn't shoot the ball. He didn't shoot the ball. He didn't shoot the ball. Do you understand that yet? They could have whistled Marion for a non-shooting foul but they chose to let it go. Lebron re-gathered himself and went up for a shot, Marion blocked it (and got part of the hand on the follow through but technically that's not a foul). It was a stupid play by Lebron not to take the shot initially and force the refs' hand. Case closed.
He shot the ball while Marion was still into him, it doesn't matter whether or not he did it while he was in the air. It was a body foul while he was shooting.
Oh brother your really grasping at straws now. Dude fouled out in 8 minutes and your seriously whining about this?
I heard at least one announcer saying he didn't see a foul there, and I think it was Van Gundy.
Yes it does matter. I don't know what you mean by Marion being "still into him" but when Lebron regathered and attempted a fadeaway they were clearly separated at that point.
Just admit Lebron ed up and then shut the up already.
That's not what I rememeber but I'm not 100% positive. Do you recall what quarter it was.. I can look it up easier that way.
I think it was the 4th; I saw the very end of the 3rd and all of the 4th. I think (but I'm not certain) that it was someone's 4th foul, either Haslem or Bosh.
So you're saying those were lesser fouls than the non-existant foul against Haslem on Dirk?
Oh brother your really grasping at straws now. Dude fouled out in 8 minutes and your seriously whining about this?
^ This is true.
Lebron clearly stepped back after the contact then started his shooting motion. It's not a foul to be run into, but the offensive player can force the issue if he starts his shooting motion early enough. Lebron didn't. His shot was in no way hindered by the incidental contact.
However, he did not double dribble, unless he carried earlier. No way it can go both ways.
Are we talking about the same play? I'm talking about the 3 he shot.
Yes. He clearly missed it and the shot clock expired, I think.
There was initial contact but Lebron stepped back afterward and began his shooting motion. There was a fingertip to palm contact after the shot.
May have not been a "double dribble" but it was a violation nonetheless. He simply lost control of the ball in midflight and then caught it, which is a traveling violation. Either way its a turnover. Unless I'm thinking of some other instance than you are.
For the Dallas perspective: http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=37342
A lot of their fans are saying they were favored by the refs overall tonight.
"So were going to about 3 points? Yes it was a one possession game but that happened in the 1st quarter ffs
"Were overall favored by the refs in this game tbh"
"...I think both teams getting slight home cooking."
"Ouch. Personally I thought the Mavs got some home cooking tonight. I don't see why any Mavs fan would complain about the refs. Especially with how sloppy we played tonight."
"Not only can I not fault the refs, I would say if anything that the Mavericks benefitted quite a bit from the officiating this past game."
The play where Marion runs into James is clearly a foul. There's no debating. You can debate whether or not he was in the act of shooting when it occurred, but at the very least it's a foul on the floor for Marion jumping into him. That's obvious.
It wasn't called a violation. He should have been allowed then to put the ball back on the floor.
They could just as easily say any action was a violation because a previous violation wasn't called. The player has to play by the flow of the game, and Lebron either traveled or he double dribbled. He couldn't have done both in the eyes of the refs. Since he wasn't called for the carry or travel, that means that someone else caused him to lose the ball. He can recover it and put it back on the floor in that instance.
Also, just rewatching that Haslem phantom foul call, I actually noticed something I didn't while watching live. Bosh is CLEARLY fouled by Chandler on the play. In fact, Bosh is very lucky he didn't turn his ankle badly. Chandler invades his space and doesn't allow him to come down.
Poor bas s.
They're just used to being the heat's punching bag like they were in 2006. Now that the refs actually stepped up to make the correct calls its confusing for them.
There are fouls on every possession that are not called. On every drive to the basket someone gets touched. Those could be called fouls. The refs have a load of control over the outcome of the game.
Agreed, but obvious fouls are obvious fouls. Anyone that would say the Heat got calls in this game is blind/homer/angry.
So now poor Chrissy got his space "invaded" by Chandler? Get it, space invaders?
Keep going, you're on a roll now.
So if you're going up for a jump shot and someone puts their feet under you, and you trip over it on the way down, that isn't a foul? Is that what you're saying?So now poor Chrissy got his space "invaded" by Chandler? Get it, space invaders?
Keep going, you're on a roll now.
It wasn't called a violation? I thought they called him for double dribbling.
You're wrong. You're just wrong. Accept it.
Denial is rough, friend.
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