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His 3Gs yesterday were impressive, but his stats for the playoffs are a different story
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3419/mario-chalmers
While suffering from boredom, while watching these NBA Finals and waiting impatiently for the upcoming NBA draft, I wanted to raise a comparison question.
I've been watching Mario Chalmers perform in the NBA Finals. He seems to embrace his role as a backup PG, he seems to run the team effectively, and has shown himself to be a decent defender. He's certainly done a good job in limiting Mavs backup, J.J. Barea.
Coming out of college, Chalmers already carried a reputation for being a clutch performer, that's not afraid of the big stage. After all, he did hit the game-winner in the NCAA Championship game. I don't have any idea as to what he's done during the season for this Heat team, but right now, he is definitely playing very well on the road in these Finals.
All that said, the Spurs had an opportunity to draft Chalmers in the 2008 NBA Draft, after Nic Batum was plucked by the Rockets, on behalf of the Blazers. We all know the story from there. The Spurs, instead, elected to draft the unknown combo guard George Hill, from IUPUI.
Realizing this is all hindsight, we all know Hill has been a good player, but one that certainly has shown some passive limitations - especially on the road. Now that it's 3 years later, I ask would any of you have preferred that the Spurs taken Chalmers over Hill, in that 2008 NBA draft?
Some additional food for thought - knowing that the Spurs (R.C. in particular) have a great relationship with KU coach, Bill Self, one would think that they knew all there was to know about Chalmers. That said, I wonder if there was a reason the Spurs passed over Chalmers?
His 3Gs yesterday were impressive, but his stats for the playoffs are a different story
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3419/mario-chalmers
I was thinking the same thing tbh as Chalmers played some great defense on the perimeter, while calmly sinking 3 after 3 last night. I was originially for drafting Chalmers back in 2008 so the spurs wouldn't have to monkey around with a hit or miss project player like Hill, but at least Hill has performed admirably enough in his role on the spurs so as to not make the pick a total bust.
But yes, in hindsight the pick would have probably been better spent on Chalmers, unless Hill somehow lifts his clutchness to a new level and learns how to distribute the ball a bit better.
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Chalmers also plays next to BRONBRON & WADE.
Mario Chalmers could not beat out the rotting corpse of Mike Bibby for the starting PG in Miami, so is he really all that great?
I think Hill has a more well rounded game than Chalmers and has been a better player so far. Chalmers is a nice player, but I like Hill's body of work better so far.
In addition, at the time, Chalmers had baggage that was shown at the 2008 rookie symposium, when he was asked to leave the function for conduct not considered appropriate (he had herbal product). The Kansas forward (D. Arthur) was also asked to leave for the same thing.
George Hill is a better player then Chalmers and would look even better then Chalmers if he played next to Lebron, Wade and Bosh.
Chalmers is definitely more of a PG but George is way more talented IMO.
Still would take Hill over Chalmers. All he does is hitting wide open threes., but Miami`s starting PG is still Bibby
chambers is>>>>>>>>>>>>>hill
Chalmers isnt having stupid turnovers and isn't nervous on the road. George Hill sucks!Still would take Hill over Chalmers. All he does is hitting wide open threes.
Hill > Chalmers and Chalmers having a handful of good playoffs games doesn't change that.
An edge that Hill has over Chalmers for Spurs is that he can play some SG. With Parker eating most of the PG minutes, a PG only like Chalmers wouldn't have played a lot for Spurs.
The emergence of Gary Neal raises some questions about Hill playing SG. Do you want Hill playing SG minutes over Neal and Manu? Is Manu playing a lot of minutes at SF a good thing for Spurs? If the answer is no to both questions, should Spurs keep Hill as a backup PG or should they trade him?
They need to trade him for an athletic big man that can both a) be a shot blocking presence in the lane and b) provide around 10 points and 10 boards per game.
Hill has shown he can't run the point to answer your question. WE need a legit back up PG.
Hill did more last year versus Dallas than Chalmers had by far and you are forgetting that? He was the reason we beat them! He is up and down and had a off year yes, but still he is a better player and will be in this league IMO.
i'm just going to assume some of the posts in this thread were done with the user forgetting to put blue font on them.. otherwise they're pretty stupid statements.. in hindsight however, i'd still take hill over chalmers.. i remember raging during the draft as to why we didnt take chalmers over hill who was relatively unknown at the time.. as i was expecting us to do so with that pick.. but hill i believe has a better overall game.. he's a better slasher than chalmers imo and isn't as bad of a shooter..
Yeah, Tom Chambers was great!
Wow, insane GIF. I forgot how high that guy jumped.
yea chambers was black for a split second o.O
that dunk is nasty ...
He actually hit the shot that sent the game into overtime with about two seconds left when he took the shot. Kansas outplayed Memphis and won easily in overtime. I watched the game in Lawrence that night, that is the only reason I remember.
Are some of yall s stupid
Chalmers has had a couple of good games but get back at me when hes ahead of guys like Arroyo or Bibbys corpse in that rotation...Hill is still easily the better player, there isnt a single GM in the league that would choose Chalmers over Hill based on what they have shown in their 3 years in the league.
Hill would be a goddam beast next to Wade + Lebron
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