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    so i've been thinking about this and i don't understand why absent fathers just have to pay a sum of money... according ot the law, it's and acceptable compensation. i don't agree with that. kids should have a dad and a mom. it is essential for the development of the kid to have two parents. it's an inustice to the kid that the father or mother isn't in prison for not being there for him/her. if the mom isn't around, she should be locked up. if the dad, he should be locked up. why isn't having a kid and not being their for it NOT a crime? we treat this too nonchalantly. maybe someone can give me some insight and in the process reveal my ignorance.

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    How is a parent going to pay child support in jail? I think the current system where you can't leave the country when behind and where your paycheck can have your child support payment directly docked is far superior than the double whammy of the public paying to lock up another non-violent offender and then the other parent / kid having to get on public assistance to make up for the lack of child support payments.

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    you'd be forcing adults into marriages/living arrangements that they don't want. How is that cons utional?

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    A lot of people really don't have any values any more. People value and collect material possessions rather than work on themselves to be a decent human being. You have people filming people getting beat up instead of helping out. Kicking people in the head while they're having a seizure on a dirty floor. I've never put any faith in man and I dont plan on changing that any time soon.

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    Actually, it is considered child abandonment, but the state AG's office isn't much help... Especially when said parent in question moves out of state.

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    I don't see how having a parent around that is there under the threat of imprisonment is really going to do the kid much better. It's tough enough for the parents who wanted to be parents. Just seems it would create a lot of resentment for the kid and make abuse (or worse) more likely.

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    I hate and despise deadbeat parents.

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    so i've been thinking about this and i don't understand why absent fathers just have to pay a sum of money... according ot the law, it's and acceptable compensation. i don't agree with that. kids should have a dad and a mom. it is essential for the development of the kid to have two parents. it's an inustice to the kid that the father or mother isn't in prison for not being there for him/her. if the mom isn't around, she should be locked up. if the dad, he should be locked up. why isn't having a kid and not being their for it NOT a crime? we treat this too nonchalantly. maybe someone can give me some insight and in the process reveal my ignorance.
    how many hours of parent/kid time a week/month/year would be ok for you in order to keep mom/dad out of jail?

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    I don't see how having a parent around that is there under the threat of imprisonment is really going to do the kid much better. It's tough enough for the parents who wanted to be parents. Just seems it would create a lot of resentment for the kid and make abuse (or worse) more likely.

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    Well if it was up to him he would give the kid up for adoption.

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    joe chalupa is a damn good father, he provides food on the table for his kids every night! specifically hotdogs with plain mus .
    I splurged today and had chili dogs today for lunch with onions and relish!! .

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    And if you can't support them financially at least support them emotionally and show them some love. A simple hug and an "I love you" is worth millions.

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    lol Texas Attorney General Child Support Interactive






    I'm owed a lot of hugs.

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    Kooler than Jesus Nathan Explosion's Avatar
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    And if you can't support them financially at least support them emotionally and show them some love. A simple hug and an "I love you" is worth millions.
    My ex wife has seen our kids a total of 2 times in 2 1/2 months. The first time it was a month and when she showed, my son just kept hugging her and kissing her while my daughter kept screaming "Mommy".

    I see my ex once a week to pick up a check for $100. Her and I don't get along because I told her that she needed to step up and be a mom to our kids and if she wasn't prepared to do that, then don't bother coming around. In her eyes I said don't come around. What I actually said was grow the up and act like an adult. I don't need another child in my home.

    Her excuse, she wasn't emotionally prepared to have a child. My response, "that was information that's 5 years too late. The children are here, so you have to deal with it."

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    There are a lot of dregs out there who should never be allowed near children----even their own.

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    kids should have a dad and a mom. it is essential for the development of the kid to have two parents.
    No, it's not. And it certainly isn't something the government should punitively enforce.

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    you really want more black men in prison?

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    No, it's not. And it certainly isn't something the government should punitively enforce.
    Two parents aren't needed, but to say it isn't ideal is ignorant or some liberal bull (btw, most would consider me liberal).

    I have a daughter. Other than my mom, she's the only girl in the family. Basically, what the do I know about raising a daughter. There are some things she's going to need to learn and I haven't a clue about what they are or how to teach her. Mom's come in handy. And while you can say the grandmother can help (you're talking to someone who chose to live with grandparents to go to a different high school, so I know what it's like), the grandparent isn't the parent, so it's not the same.

    Having 2 loving parents that live together is the best situation for all children. Second best is having two loving parents that are involved, even if they are separate. But having a parent missing can raise questions in the child's mind no matter how well adjusted they are, or how great a job the one parent did. It's human nature to wonder why you weren't good enough for your own parent to stick around. It happens.

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    I'm owed a lot of hugs.
    so is my wife

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    Child support is pretty good penance for people who are Selfish enough to not raise kids that they brought into this world. Deadbeats who dont pay child support are the ones that shOuld end up behind bars. Taking 0 responsibility for your actions makes you absolute s , especially when that responsibilty is a young child.

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    Child support is pretty good penance for people who are Selfish enough to not raise kids that they brought into this world. Deadbeats who dont pay child support are the ones that shOuld end up behind bars. Taking 0 responsibility for your actions makes you absoluye s , especially when that resp
    But sometimes the child support isn't enough. Anything is better than nothing, but children are expensive and in my case, when they were born, I was counting on the fact that there would be 2 incomes supporting them, not 1 1/3 incomes. Especially when the ex es that I'm asking for too much. I'm making all the sacrifice, putting a roof over their head (not living with mom), food on their plates and clothes on their back.

    The least you can do is take half of the monetary responsibility since you've abandoned all the emotional and mental responsibility of raising children.

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    Child support is pretty good penance for people who are Selfish enough to not raise kids that they brought into this world. Deadbeats who dont pay child support are the ones that shOuld end up behind bars. Taking 0 responsibility for your actions makes you absolute s , especially when that responsibilty is a young child.


    My SIL's ex pays exactly zero child support for their kid, who is still young enough to be in diapers. On top of that, HE occasionally asks HER for money - for the energy bill he "forgot" to pay, for the groceries he "hasn't bought yet", etc. She's flat broke and trying to get through classes for job training - he spends every non-working minute sitting on his behind drinking and playing video games. That guy's such an asshole.

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    Mrs.Useruser666 SpursWoman's Avatar
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    But sometimes the child support isn't enough. Anything is better than nothing, but children are expensive and in my case, when they were born, I was counting on the fact that there would be 2 incomes supporting them, not 1 1/3 incomes. Especially when the ex es that I'm asking for too much. I'm making all the sacrifice, putting a roof over their head (not living with mom), food on their plates and clothes on their back.

    The least you can do is take half of the monetary responsibility since you've abandoned all the emotional and mental responsibility of raising children.
    My kids are 14 & 15 and I will tell you from my own personal experience, although somewhat sad, there will be not a small amount of (juvenile?) satisfaction when your children get old enough to recognize what's really going on and start to distance themselves from the deadbeat parent ... and it will be from their own determination of the other parent's lack of responsibility and/or character. Kids can be pretty smart ... give them some credit. As long as you do the best you can emotionally & financially and not constantly pull the martyr card, they will be just fine.

    I've received about $600 total over the span of 10 years or so and according to the TAG website he is in arrears of $52,680.28 ... I'd be pretty happy with $100/week. But I am obviously not holding my breath.

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    Kooler than Jesus Nathan Explosion's Avatar
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    My kids are 14 & 15 and I will tell you from my own personal experience, although somewhat sad, there will be not a small amount of (juvenile?) satisfaction when your children get old enough to recognize what's really going on and start to distance themselves from the deadbeat parent ... and it will be from their own determination of the other parent's lack of responsibility and/or character. Kids can be pretty smart ... give them some credit. As long as you do the best you can emotionally & financially and not constantly pull the martyr card, they will be just fine.

    I've received about $600 total over the span of 10 years or so and according to the TAG website he is in arrears of $52,680.28 ... I'd be pretty happy with $100/week. But I am obviously not holding my breath.
    My son is starting to see it. I warned her that while our kids still love her (she is their mom after all), they don't really like her. My son gets pretty angry with her, and he's 4. So I get that. My problem really is that my kids are upset and it upsets me. And it doesn't have to be that way. I don't give a if she comes or goes, but I get really upset when my kids get affected.

    As for the $100, it comes to $300 a month because she has to pay rent the 4th week as do I. It helps, but right now my car needs a lot of work done and I have to have it running smooth because I do a lot of driving, to work, babysitters while I'm at work, the store, appointments etc...

    A bad running car will cost you more money than a smooth running one. If could get an extra $100 a month for say 3 months, I'd be able to have that car running smoothly in no time.

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    My kids are 14 & 15 and I will tell you from my own personal experience, although somewhat sad, there will be not a small amount of (juvenile?) satisfaction when your children get old enough to recognize what's really going on and start to distance themselves from the deadbeat parent ... and it will be from their own determination of the other parent's lack of responsibility and/or character. Kids can be pretty smart ... give them some credit. As long as you do the best you can emotionally & financially and not constantly pull the martyr card, they will be just fine.

    I've received about $600 total over the span of 10 years or so and according to the TAG website he is in arrears of $52,680.28 ... I'd be pretty happy with $100/week. But I am obviously not holding my breath.
    My wife's ex was in jail at the time of the child support determination so it was based off of minimum wage in 1997. Even considering that, he is in arrears about 40k. She hasn't seen him since 2000, and about 3 years ago, he called her parent's house looking for her because he wanted to teach his daughter about her irish lineage (my wife had started receiving $76.80 checks on a bi-weekly basis about 3 weeks prior to this call). Her mother told him that if he would like to she would pass the message on to her, but that she was dating someone who is proud of his Irish heritage (me) and that this person was bringing her up to speed. He got all pissed off and said "OH WELL I HOPE THEY ARE ENJOYING ALL OF THAT MONEY I AM SENDING THEM" (we got some extra cheese on our whopper with ALL THAT CASH!" Then he quit his job and moved back out of state.

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