Florida Will Drug Test Welfare Recipients

[ALVAREZ6]

I didn't say throw them in jail. But you're wasting tax dollars to fund drug habits. Take away the welfare checks and let them fend for themselves. Random test the people and let the users go empty handed.

I know, and I don't disagree with your point. My FIFY post along with others was part of a thread-hijacking attempt. Diverting the subject.

[thispego]

Its not free money. Pretty sure that we all pay taxes in case we need the assistance at some point.

BTW I just had massive Deja Vu.

Ok... Give me some welfare money too and i'll be pissed about having to take mandatory drug tests to receive it. I would undoubtedly use that welfare money to buy really good weed every month.

Realizing that your tax dollars go to support welfare recipients, wouldnt you want to know that they are using the money for food and necessities and not to grt high with so they can continue to not work, be lazy, collect free (to them) monies?

[baseline bum]

Florida should also fat-test the welfare recipients. Fatasses' grocery bills cost more, as cake is expensive and keeps them from getting off the ing couch.

[MannyIsGod]

Ok... Give me some welfare money too and i'll be pissed about having to take mandatory drug tests to receive it. I would undoubtedly use that welfare money to buy really good weed every month.

Realizing that your tax dollars go to support welfare recipients, wouldnt you want to know that they are using the money for food and necessities and not to grt high with so they can continue to not work, be lazy, collect free (to them) monies?

TBH, I don't care about people who misspend welfare money very much. Its impossible to get people to spend that money wisely at some point and like this that doesn't look to solve anything is a worst waste of money.

[Thompson]

Just end welfare altogether. He who does not work shall not eat.

Didn't we have another thread about crops rotting in Florida because the immigrants were afraid of the immigration laws? Two birds with one stone.

[Drachen]

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[Andrew Cunanan]

Just end welfare altogether. He who does not work shall not eat.

Didn't we have another thread about crops rotting in Florida because the immigrants were afraid of the immigration laws? Two birds with one stone.

That's a very eloquent, non-archaic point of view. We need more Americans like you, sir.

[Thompson]

That's a very eloquent, non-archaic point of view. We need more Americans like you, sir.

Just give it a few more years; people will eventually realize we can't decadently pay people to sit on their butts when the nation's insolvent.

[thispego]

Just end welfare altogether. He who does not work shall not eat.

Didn't we have another thread about crops rotting in Florida because the immigrants were afraid of the immigration laws? Two birds with one stone.

[Cuckolded Sissy]

I could see riots breaking out over this, category 3 chimp outs minimum.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Great, this will mean more frequent-flyer ambulance calls so people can legally get their fix

[Wild Cobra]

Florida Will Drug Test Welfare Recipients

Good. Other states need to follow.

[Wild Cobra]

Well, if this article is correct, the law takes effect 7/1/12. Plenty of time for people to get their together. The tests will cost between $44,000 to $110,000 monthly. When the program was conceived in 2001, it was based on $89 per test. Test costs are down, and are now $10 to $25 each. They will test 4,400 people, I assume randomly, and the first time they apply.

Florida Will Drug Test Welfare Recipients

Just found this:

HB 353 Drug Screening of Potential and Existing Beneficiaries of Temporary Cash Assistance

Have some reading to do, and will search for HB 353 too.

[Wild Cobra]

OK, the effective date is this year, I assume the 2012 date is when it must be fully implemented.

Here is the text of HB 353:

CS/CS/CS/CS/HB 353, Engrossed 1

[Big P]

You have to take a drug test to get a job....why shouldn't you have to take a drug test to live off the govts. ? This should have been done a long time ago...why should the tax payers subsidize peoples drug habits? I would rather spend money on drug tests to get rid of the moochers, than have the moochers spend my tax dollars on drugs....what's wrong with getting the people who abuse the system out of it?

[Big P]

TBH, I don't care about people who misspend welfare money very much. Its impossible to get people to spend that money wisely at some point and like this that doesn't look to solve anything is a worst waste of money.

You want to misspend your money that's one thing...you worked for it, misspending tax payer dollars for drugs so you can sit home and watch Maury is bull . The reason they don't spend the money wisely is because it's not their money, its the tax payers.

[SA210]

Or trash collection? Or anyone applying for a drives license? Shouldn't all government services require that money only be spent on those who aren't on drugs/

[SA210]

What would I do? Nothing because there is no problem. Thats kinda my point, Drachen. So far you've provided nothing to back up a claim there is a problem here worth solving by the state. I haven't seen any data that this will save the state any money or have any long term positive results.

Isn't all of that kind of necessary to show you have a problem before you actually try to solve it?

It just goes to show that it's just a personal hatred and a prejudice against the minority or the poor.No proof, just a prejudice.

[Wild Cobra]

It just goes to show that it's just a personal hatred and a prejudice against the minority or the poor.No proof, just a prejudice.

No. It's prejudice against drug users. Not the poor.

Please get the facts strait.

[TheProfessor]

No. It's prejudice against drug users. Not the poor.

Please get the facts strait.

It's su ionless testing, based on the presumption that many of those on welfare are abusing it to use drugs.

[Wild Cobra]

It's su ionless testing, based on the presumption that many of those on welfare are abusing it to use drugs.

No it isn't. It's a requirement to get assistance. If you don't like it, too bad. The same law and testing standards employers can use is utilized. Is it also wrong that employers do this?

I'm going to make the wild ass guess that you have an en lement mentality.

112.0455 Drug-Free Workplace Act.—

[mouse]

I would starve to death in Florida.

[mouse]

well I would not eat as well .......

[TheProfessor]

No it isn't. It's a requirement to get assistance. If you don't like it, too bad. The same law and testing standards employers can use is utilized. Is it also wrong that employers do this?

I'm going to make the wild ass guess that you have an en lement mentality

First of all, I'm all for sensible revisions to the current welfare scheme, but this is nothing but political posturing that accomplishes very little, other than further stigmatizing the poor and punishing those not in a position to help themselves, often the children. This is not an employment context, and these searches are su ionless. The Michigan appellate courts handled this earlier in the decade and found such laws uncons utional.

[DMC]

Should they drug test those receiving unemployment benefits too? And disability or government pension payments?

Sure. Drug test everyone.