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how much money do you think you yourself have spent on government paid abortions?
More accurately, I think Libertarianism means "freedom for me."
how much money do you think you yourself have spent on government paid abortions?
Also, if you get arrested for a crime, I don't think we need to waste taxpayer money on a trial, am I right? If you don't have the personal responsibility not to get arrested, then you deserve whatever hole the government is going to throw you into!
Predicating parenthood upon a fiscal threshold is breathlessly vapid. Thread delivers.
Surely the best way to save welfare tax dollars is to spend even more tax dollars by sticking mommy and daddy in jail.
Surely that's also what's best for baby.
WC for President.
WC's an idiot.
Your idea is pretty much the polar opposite of libertarianism. The libertarian response to your plan would be that the government has absolutely no authority to force you into an unwanted medical procedure and has no business deciding on your behalf whether or not you are financially capable of supporting your children.
Wow...
I leave for about 12 hours and this is really funny.
No thought about my words, just the flames I expected.
Think about what is being said and why.
It seems you guys idea of libertarianism allows no responsibility. This anarchy would turn into a system of lawlessness if you do not apply laws for the good of society. may as well take your at udes to have the freedom to murder someone. If libertarianism means you are free to do what you want, where do you draw that line of when it affects others?
This was all about your words.
Your words are wildly authoritarian.
Don't ever accuse anyone of being so.
Hmmm. I've never thought of Nazi-ish, totalitarian principles as libertarian.
Are you saying a libertarian would want a country with no laws?
I'm saying your eugenics plan is not libertarian.
It's not eugenics. It has nothing to do with DNA, unless you are saying responsibility is in the DNA.
Reproductive rights have nothing to do with DNA?
I could fill a page with these:
You are a stupidly disingenuous authoritarian.
This is an authoritarian point of view, not a libertarian one. Libertarians are interested in maximizing liberty for the individual, not restricting individual liberty allegedly in the interests of doing what's good for society. The government forcing people into unwanted medical procedures is clearly an infringement on personal liberty.
Now you're just being stupid.may as well take your at udes to have the freedom to murder someone.
If you wanted to make a libertarian arguement with this topic, the arguement should be something along the lines of the government not having the right to force individuals into financially supporting others via welfare programs.If libertarianism means you are free to do what you want, where do you draw that line of when it affects others?
It really is, unless it's you, Herr Cobra.
Tough room, but I expected as much from you liberals.
I ask you all to consider something.
If the libertarian viewpoint is maximized freedom, then how much freedom is someone allowed to have a negative impact on others before it's OK to stop them?
This is better than ether! The libertarian who wants to limit reproductive rights.
If WC is a troll, the person doing it is DAMN good.
Already answered. In the libertarian viewpoint, if you're not financially supporting anyone via welfare, then you're not negatively impacted when someone has a kid they can't afford.
Him listening is another story...
Your words advocated a system of class based eugenics. I think the response has been appropriate.
I stopped here. Good luck defining "proper financial future".
There's a few problems with quantifying that. For instance if you're on welfare and have a terrible smoking habit, your addiction impacts negatively on society at large, and whoever might be in your immediate vicinity when you light up.
I on the other hand, might just encourage you to keep on keeping on.
Last edited by Agloco; 06-09-2011 at 05:22 PM.
lol @ Liberals.
And it seems your idea of libertarianism includes forced sterilization by the government.
I'm pretty sure that my definition is more acceptable.
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