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    Jon Barry is damn near jacking off right now.

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    Lebron's mid-range jump shot has been very good, all year..did any of you people watch basketball, before this series?..he dominated Chicago and Boston with a variety of offensive attacks..he's struggling with everything right now, it's 95% mental, he didn't lose his talents after game 1..
    if all these struggles he be suffering are mental, hes a choker

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    mid-range different than an effective back to the basket low post game ...
    Contrary to what many say Lebron can be effective posting up, but normally that comes when matched up against much smaller defenders. He still lacks the foot work or the variety of moves to be considered a good post player.
    He's more like Joe Johnson who has a very big weight and height advantage against most of his defenders and therefore can be an efficient post player.
    Compared to what it could be, I would say Lebron post game is certainly not anywhere near the potential his physical abilities could allow.

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    The Dallas Mavericks are disrespecting Lebron putting Jason Kidd on him at times in this series and I can't believe he can't take advantage of the matchup.

    I've been saying the last 2 years there's no reason for a player of that size with that kind of athleticism and speed not to have a high/low post game. When those driving lanes are cut off and your shot isn't falling it's just another weapon to go to in your arsenal. It's rare that something bad comes out of a good post game. It's a high percentage shot. It's a matchup nightmare when you have a smaller player guarding you. It forces the defense to react and double which opens up passing lanes for cutters and shooters. Anything is better than sitting on the perimeter looking like an idiot with a midget guarding you. And you don't bail him out shooting a jumper like Lebron did tonight. I got flashbacks of T-Mac in Game 7 against the Jazz when they put Derek Fisher on him in ISOs and he clanked jumpers instead of [Barkley]PUNISHING THAT MIDGET!![/Barkley]

    The same can be said for Kevin Durant. He has all the length in the world and a great shooting touch. He could kill with even an average post game. Who's going to block a jumphook from him with those long arms? Instead he's either getting denied the ball on the perimeter by good defenders, shooting 30 foot shots at the end of games or forced to watch Westbrook take over down the stretch. It's just re ed. He and Lebron need to wise the up and seriously develop their games. There's no good in reason Lebron doesn't have at least average foot work or some basic up and under moves in his 8th season.

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    he dominated Chicago and Boston with a variety of offensive attacks..he's struggling with everything right now,
    Thats because of Mr. Marion

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    Lebron has had no post game in this series. He backs down someone smaller for a few seconds looking awkwardly and then passes out. Dallas has dared him to dominate them in the post and he hasn't because he doesn't have a post game.e

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    In this series? LeBron has NEVER had a post game.

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    the heat need him to score then facilitate stat padding his assist column

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    Lebron's post game has been fine, his struggles are all mental + refs not giving calls..

    He played fine in this game, he didn't take any bad shots, other than the jump shot over Kidd..the 3s he took were fine, he just missed them, he was making all these shots in the previous rounds, which is why I say it's mental..
    LeBron's post game IS NOT fine because he doesn't have one.

    Aside from that, his troubles are inside his head. He's never had to work through adversity before at a compe ive level. He doesn't know how to develop his game, how to think the game - and ultimately how the win the game, at the highest level.

    Until he humbles himself, allows himself to be coached up, and seriously spends time developing his all-around game, he'll continue being a choker.

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    He's gonna have a one on one special with Jim Gray before game 6... He'll tell the kids why he struggles in the 4th () and then he'll be fine. I expect much better from him with home cooking... More worried about Wade and his injury, tbh

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    The Dallas Mavericks are disrespecting Lebron putting Jason Kidd on him at times in this series and I can't believe he can't take advantage of the matchup.

    I've been saying the last 2 years there's no reason for a player of that size with that kind of athleticism and speed not to have a high/low post game. When those driving lanes are cut off and your shot isn't falling it's just another weapon to go to in your arsenal. It's rare that something bad comes out of a good post game. It's a high percentage shot. It's a matchup nightmare when you have a smaller player guarding you. It forces the defense to react and double which opens up passing lanes for cutters and shooters. Anything is better than sitting on the perimeter looking like an idiot with a midget guarding you. And you don't bail him out shooting a jumper like Lebron did tonight. I got flashbacks of T-Mac in Game 7 against the Jazz when they put Derek Fisher on him in ISOs and he clanked jumpers instead of [Barkley]PUNISHING THAT MIDGET!![/Barkley]

    The same can be said for Kevin Durant. He has all the length in the world and a great shooting touch. He could kill with even an average post game. Who's going to block a jumphook from him with those long arms? Instead he's either getting denied the ball on the perimeter by good defenders, shooting 30 foot shots at the end of games or forced to watch Westbrook take over down the stretch. It's just re ed. He and Lebron need to wise the up and seriously develop their games. There's no good in reason Lebron doesn't have at least average foot work or some basic up and under moves in his 8th season.
    great post. I guess when i think of a "post game" ... being able to be effective only when you have a MUCH smaller defender, does not come to mind. Great low-post players are able to use their body positioning, foot-work and patience to score, even when guarded by players their own height and even taller. We all know Lebron has the size, athletic abilty and is such a great passer that if he develops a true post game, he would be even more dangerous.

    But because the Lebronimati and the Hollinger and Henry Abbott stat lovers (and even more importantly Lebron himself) feel he is good enough as is, why should he change his game? Because PER and win shares says he is one of the best regular season and playoff performers of all-time, that is good enough ...right?
    That is the same bull people use to defend shaq. Sure they are great dominant players, but they could/shoulda been even better ... Mj better ...but they settle for just being great.

    Like i said he will win les, but I will be very disappointed if he never threatens MJ As GOAT. he has gifts even Mj never had ...but his lack of a mental game, footwork and fundamentals will not let him realize his full potential ...even though he is better passer and defender than MJ. Oh, well ...
    Last edited by Killakobe81; 06-10-2011 at 12:42 AM.

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    The Dallas Mavericks are disrespecting Lebron putting Jason Kidd on him at times in this series and I can't believe he can't take advantage of the matchup.

    I've been saying the last 2 years there's no reason for a player of that size with that kind of athleticism and speed not to have a high/low post game. When those driving lanes are cut off and your shot isn't falling it's just another weapon to go to in your arsenal. It's rare that something bad comes out of a good post game. It's a high percentage shot. It's a matchup nightmare when you have a smaller player guarding you. It forces the defense to react and double which opens up passing lanes for cutters and shooters. Anything is better than sitting on the perimeter looking like an idiot with a midget guarding you. And you don't bail him out shooting a jumper like Lebron did tonight. I got flashbacks of T-Mac in Game 7 against the Jazz when they put Derek Fisher on him in ISOs and he clanked jumpers instead of [Barkley]PUNISHING THAT MIDGET!![/Barkley]

    The same can be said for Kevin Durant. He has all the length in the world and a great shooting touch. He could kill with even an average post game. Who's going to block a jumphook from him with those long arms? Instead he's either getting denied the ball on the perimeter by good defenders, shooting 30 foot shots at the end of games or forced to watch Westbrook take over down the stretch. It's just re ed. He and Lebron need to wise the up and seriously develop their games. There's no good in reason Lebron doesn't have at least average foot work or some basic up and under moves in his 8th season.
    I especially agree with you that the Mavs are disrespecting the Heat and LeBron by putting Kidd on him. , I think Wade should feel disrespected when they put Kidd on him too. Although Wade has actually taken it at him instead of clanging jumpers like LeBron....

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    great post. I guess when i think of a "post game" ... being able to be effective only when you have a MUCH smaller defender, does not come to mind. Great low-post players are able to use their body positioning, foot-work and patience to score, even when guarded by players their own height and even taller. We all know Lebron has the size, athletic abilty and is such a great passer that if he develops a true post game, he would be even more dangerous.

    But because the Lebronimati and the Holliner and Henry Abbott stat lovers (and even more importantly Lebron himself) feel he is good enough as is, why should he change his game? Because PER and win shares says he is one of the best regular season performers, that is good enough ...right? That is the same bull people use to defend shaq. Sure they are great dominat players but they could/shoulda been even better Mj better ...but they settle.

    Like i said he will win les, but I will be very disappointed if he never threatens MJ As GOAT. he has gifts even Mj never had ...but his lack of a mental game, footwork and fundamentals will not let him realize his full potential ...even though he is better passer and defender than MJ. Oh, well ...
    He'll never approach GOAT status. Doesn't work hard enough on his game. He will probably end up similar to Shaq and Wilt. Dominant physical specimens with a couple of rings. No way he will be GOAT. He's been in the league for 8 years and still has a long way to go to polish his skills despite what Booker T says.

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    The Dallas Mavericks are disrespecting Lebron putting Jason Kidd on him at times in this series and I can't believe he can't take advantage of the matchup.

    I've been saying the last 2 years there's no reason for a player of that size with that kind of athleticism and speed not to have a high/low post game. When those driving lanes are cut off and your shot isn't falling it's just another weapon to go to in your arsenal. It's rare that something bad comes out of a good post game. It's a high percentage shot. It's a matchup nightmare when you have a smaller player guarding you. It forces the defense to react and double which opens up passing lanes for cutters and shooters. Anything is better than sitting on the perimeter looking like an idiot with a midget guarding you. And you don't bail him out shooting a jumper like Lebron did tonight. I got flashbacks of T-Mac in Game 7 against the Jazz when they put Derek Fisher on him in ISOs and he clanked jumpers instead of [Barkley]PUNISHING THAT MIDGET!![/Barkley]

    The same can be said for Kevin Durant. He has all the length in the world and a great shooting touch. He could kill with even an average post game. Who's going to block a jumphook from him with those long arms? Instead he's either getting denied the ball on the perimeter by good defenders, shooting 30 foot shots at the end of games or forced to watch Westbrook take over down the stretch. It's just re ed. He and Lebron need to wise the up and seriously develop their games. There's no good in reason Lebron doesn't have at least average foot work or some basic up and under moves in his 8th season.
    Great post hitman. I've been saying it for a while now: LBJ has not progressed in 8 years. It's funny how Dallas is frustrating him with their zone and giving him different looks. If he had a post game he could stop living and dying on the perimeter. He should be able to take anyone on the block and punish. Anyone. But he doesn't because he can't.

    I know you are no Kobe fan, but Kobe has a complete repertoire of moves that he can go to be it on the perimeter or in the post. His footwork is sick and one reason why he can still be effective despite losing a step and a lot of his hops. LBJ better develop an array of moves and counter moves because after his athleticism is gone so will his eliteness as a player.

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    You guys do realize he's getting double teamed on every pick and roll right?

    When he posts or isolates, it's either a hard double or there's a man right there zoning him up.

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    Thats because of Mr. Marion
    ROFL @ Marion being a better defender than Deng.

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    You guys do realize he's getting double teamed on every pick and roll right?

    When he posts or isolates, it's either a hard double or there's a man right there zoning him up.
    Every superstar gets that kind of treatment. No excuses.

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    Every superstar gets that kind of treatment. No excuses.
    Really? I could have sworn I've been seeing Nowitzki guarded 1 on 1 on almost every play. The same for Wade.

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    Lebron's post game has been fine, his struggles are all mental + refs not giving calls..

    He played fine in this game, he didn't take any bad shots, other than the jump shot over Kidd..the 3s he took were fine, he just missed them, he was making all these shots in the previous rounds, which is why I say it's mental..
    Nothing you said is right, his post game is awful, had it 8 times and got one 18 foot jumpshot. If you are that massive and that athletic, you need a better a postgame. As to the threes, Lebron jacked up a couple of them with very little time off of the shot clock and of course missed. The pressure ruins his skills and destroys his ability to make good decisions

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    It's unrealistic to ask a guy who has the ball as much as he does to drive to the basket every single time he wants to score, defenses adjust and refs don't give you the call unless you are 2006 Wade. The problem is his entire offensive game is jacking up 3s or driving. He doesn't have anything midrange that he can rely on to get a good quality shot at any time.
    I probably wouldn't mind as much if he had some good footwork, and didn't just rely on barrelling through people.

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    Champ or not, LeBron has to watch a load of game tape of Jordan and Kobe in the post, take mental notes and practice it till he pukes.

    Oh wait, how many years have experts said that?

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    He'll never approach GOAT status. Doesn't work hard enough on his game. He will probably end up similar to Shaq and Wilt. Dominant physical specimens with a couple of rings. No way he will be GOAT. He's been in the league for 8 years and still has a long way to go to polish his skills despite what Booker T says.
    What are you talking about? Shaq has 4 rings. That number is a lot closer to Jordan than a player with a couple of rings.

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    NT? more like SO i said
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    Champ or not, LeBron has to watch a load of game tape of Jordan and Kobe in the post, take mental notes and practice it till he pukes.

    Oh wait, how many years have experts said that?
    His face up game is also overrated. He's a good but no great ball handler, and he has no real moves to get his defender off balance. It's simply using his size and athleticism to beat his defender to the spot and then drive or pull up.

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    His face up game is also overrated. He's a good but no great ball handler, and he has no real moves to get his defender off balance. It's simply using his size and athleticism to beat his defender to the spot and then drive or pull up.
    Watching Lebron in crunch time makes me really see How good Tim, Kobe and Manu were. I'm used to seeing those guys close out games so I'm not used to seeing this kind of horrid play in crunch time. You are definitely right about Lebron's ball handling, that is definitely something I've noticed watching these games that he doesn't seem to be a great ball handler, and that's affecting what he can do at the end of games.

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