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I'm only digging myself a hole against consensus. As you are fully aware, consensus is not necessarily fact.
I'm only digging myself a hole against consensus. As you are fully aware, consensus is not necessarily fact.
Last edited by Wild Cobra; 06-13-2011 at 12:05 AM.
I don't understand how you ask how to change black culture when it comes to gangs when there are other races in that graph as well. You should've asked how we as Americans can solve the gang problems since it affects all the races. But no, you make a beeline straight towards the opportunity to attack black people.
I think you totally missed the point of the graph and only used it to strengthen your bias.
I was explaining an earlier topic. I agree, we need to solve it all, but how?
What is the point you think I missed?
Well, we gotta look at the reasons why kids join gangs. One reason would be for them to feel part of a family. They are looking for love in the wrong places so maybe create a more active organization like big brothers/sisters to go after (i mean actually pursue) these kids and give them what they are missing: a role model.
That's why I use the term "culture." I say these traits have nothing to do with race, but the living conditions, peers growing up, etc. We have acquired values rather than inherited ones. Here is the definition of culture I apply:
The formative years are already past before organizations intervention can do any good.5 b : the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group; also : the characteristic features of everyday existence (as diversions or a way of life} shared by people in a place or time <popular culture> <southern culture>
Cobra stop. You and I know very well that the underlying basis of your very first topic of this thread was to talk about blacks and their gang affiliations. You did not mean to ask "how can we change this part of American culture". Since you went on to talk about how blacks have different ethics, you wanted to know how we can change that part of black culture.
Thing is, it's not even about ethics. Black parents don't make it a goal to create little gangsters so that they will be ready to lead a gang when they get older. It's all about choices and the choices that they are presented in the poor cir stances that they are in.
That's right. Take your position based on the idea you know what I believe more than I do.
Maybe you should consider what I say instead of thinking inside that PC box they gave you in school.
I'm not even trying to attack you. As you can see by the responses you got, the majority think you are being bias and trying to use these graphs to reinforce your way of thinking by what you said.
It did not at all seem you wanted to know how to fix a problem that plagued American culture.
LOL, talk about school, do you really think your pointy-headed "how do you change a culture" notions are anything new?
One way we could change black culture and prevent future gang participation would be to defund education and community programs. That'll teach 'em.
It's about education levels. Blacks lag far behind whites in education levels so therefore they will lag behind in income levels. Also there is a high rate of blacks being raised by single mothers.
The reason is many come from broken homes/ many don't have high levels of education so fewer options for good paying future jobs. Joining gangs is an attractive option when you don't have much hope for a good future to some.
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isn't reading a thread about race (or sociology) started by WC the equivalent to reading a cookbook from chef boyardee ?
ain't nothing wrong with Chef Boy-ar-dee.
WC, perhaps you should have led the thread "poor community demographics" if you didnt want it to be specific to race.
That said, while you may disagree with affirmative action, do you agree it could possibly lead to more minorities getting good jobs, thereby lifting them out of these poorer neighborhoods?
Well, I did start the thread in response to your statement. Kinda late now.
It's not affirmative action I disagree with, but the quota system part of it.
not much right with canned meat & pasta pumped full of sodium either
OMG!!! 35% of all black people are in gangs!!!!
Maybe you should read that carefully.
do you think it's possible that there are gangs of Black surgeons?
Cobra, you admitted (more than once, IIRC) to have done drugs. Did the society around you, or the way you were raised made you do that?
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