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    I tend to believe you have no idea what you are talking about anyway -- but if those are the actual texts, do the words "but not limited to" mean anything to you?

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    I tend to believe you have no idea what you are talking about anyway -- but if those are the actual texts, do the words "but not limited to" mean anything to you?
    Yes, I saw that, but there is no trail to it.

    Care to show me by chance?

    My God. The votes listed don't match roll call 89. There is clearly something fishy.

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    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s112-1057

    It doesn't look to have been any kind of update here, but I don't see any reason to discredit the author in the op.

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    Yes, I saw that, but there is no trail to it.

    Care to show me by chance?
    It's your trail. You showed it to us.

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    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s112-1057

    It doesn't look to have been any kind of update here, but I don't see any reason to discredit the author in the op.
    Yes, I looked it up initially. When it didn't show up after a day, I did some digging, hence my posts today. It was never voted on, the OP is lying about which bill:
    S.1057
    Latest le: Ethanol Subsidy and Tariff Repeal Act
    Sponsor: Sen Coburn, Tom [OK] (introduced 5/24/2011) Cosponsors (None)
    Related Bills: H.R.1075, H.R.1188, S.520, S.871
    Latest Major Action: 5/25/2011 Read the second time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 69.ALL ACTIONS:

    5/24/2011:
    Introduced in the Senate. Read the first time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under Read the First Time.
    5/25/2011:
    Read the second time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 69.

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    It's your trail. You showed it to us.
    I showed you the OP is wrong.

    Need to stop believing leftist media without verifying.

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    Yes, I looked it up initially. When it didn't show up after a day, I did some digging, hence my posts today. It was never voted on, the OP is lying about which bill:
    Meh. If the OP has it wrong, great.....then there's still a chance for repeal.

    Why do you think it's a fishy situation?

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    Meh. If the OP has it wrong, great.....then there's still a chance for repeal.

    Why do you think it's a fishy situation?
    Why is the journalist lying?

    Why does the bill voted on have a le that doesn't fit the action?

    These questions are why.

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    I showed you the OP is wrong.
    Nah, as I said, my default is to believe you have no idea what you're babbling about.

    Need to stop believing leftist media without verifying.
    There are plenty of right wing sources in the 800 or so stories that verify what happened
    and verify that you are completely wrong.

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    Nah, as I said, my default is to believe you have no idea what you're babbling about.

    There are plenty of right wing sources in the 800 or so stories that verify what happened
    and verify that you are completely wrong.
    Show me.

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    If you are too stupid to look it up yourself, ask a black person to help you.

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    Why is the journalist lying?

    Why does the bill voted on have a le that doesn't fit the action?

    These questions are why.
    I know 8 year olds that can out-investigate you using google.

    Pathetic.

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    lol "my capabilities"

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    Goddamn, son. The leftists have taken over Fox News!
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...l-tax-credits/

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    Goddamn, son. The leftists have taken over Fox News!
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...l-tax-credits/
    If you say so.

    I think she is just reporting on what others said.

    One article I found called it a "first step." Not elimination.

    I have not been able to find where the voted on measure covers what the media is saying. Can you?

    If what the articles are saying is true, USA ethanol will be $0.45 more expensive at wholesale and imported ethanol will be $0.54 cheaper...

    A bill often fails because of other things it does other than what it is advertised to do.

    Assuming it is true, why does he want to favor imported ethanol?

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    If you say so.

    I think she is just reporting on what others said.

    One article I found called it a "first step." Not elimination.

    I have not been able to find where the voted on measure covers what the media is saying. Can you?

    If what the articles are saying is true, USA ethanol will be $0.45 more expensive at wholesale and imported ethanol will be $0.54 cheaper...

    A bill often fails because of other things it does other than what it is advertised to do.

    Assuming it is true, why does he want to favor imported ethanol?
    Why do you think you are the only person in the world who knows the "real" story here?

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    Why do you think you are the only person in the world who knows the "real" story here?
    I don't. Stop making things up. I asked others how this traces to ethanol, and nobody can show me except other people say so.

    Hearsay isn't fact. I want to see the text. I already looked, and failed at finding it.

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    Did you want to see text when you made your conclusions regarding "black culture".

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    Did you want to see text when you made your conclusions regarding "black culture".
    STFU you moron.

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    OK, someone at the library of congress must have ed up. they are linking the wrong information.

    Here is the amendment that was voted on yesterday:

    S. Amendment 436

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    It might have passed if it didn't remove the $0.54 tariff on imported ethanol.

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    OK, someone at the library of congress must have ed up. they are linking the wrong information.

    Here is the amendment that was voted on yesterday:

    S. Amendment 436
    someone at the LOC ed up?

    sounds fishy to me....

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    someone at the LOC ed up?

    sounds fishy to me....
    Say what you want. I found the actual amendment, different from the LOC linked material.

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    Say what you want.
    k.

    I say you're a nutjob that jumped to a crazy, conspiracy conclusion because of your poor google skillz.

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    I read where the many Dems supported the bill but objected to some procedures, and that very probably it will be presented, maybe by the Dems, in different form.

    Sounds like typically overcomplicated BS, bowing to corporate $$.

    kill the subsidy, kill the tariff, period.

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