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I understand that you based your cultural view on a personal anecdote of blacks telling you the opposite of what your cultural view is, and somehow that makes sense to you.
So do they tell their children it's hopeless? Or are they telling you about blacks THEY know who tell their children it's hopeless?
I understand that you based your cultural view on a personal anecdote of blacks telling you the opposite of what your cultural view is, and somehow that makes sense to you.
Yes, I am one of the few here that seeks the truth.
Not at all.
They enjoy working and providing for themselves, and setting the example of hard work. They don't want their children growing up like they did.
Yet you can provide no proof of you're "truths".
So then the black people that you know are hard workers yet your logical conclusion is that the black "culture" (lol) are ethically inferior?
Nice truth there.
OK Manny, you tell me then why there are so many more ed up minorities than whites.
Obviously, whites are better people by and large.
If you say so.
Have any solutions to fix these problems at the root level, or do you want to pretend they don't exist?
I really have a hard time believing there's people THAT ignorant, irrational and fallacious as WC out there. It gotta be a troll job.
On the other hand, it completely explains his immediate defensive stance when somebody mocks similarly intellectually challenged people like, say, Palin.
tube tying and vasectomies?
Improving educational and employment opportunities, at least in part by considering factors including race into consideration in order to benefit an underrepresented group.
Of course, that requires that those that have give up some things in order to benefit those whose backgrounds are adversely affected by the long-term, endemic socio-economic problems that arise from long-term denial of equality.
So how many generations of children are you willing to sacrifice in the hopes that helping them after the formative years is the solution?
A solution that makes other give something up is not a solution thief.
I think the funny part is that you think you're not ed up. Must be that white trash culture leading to superiority, no justification needed.
How do we fix this problem? Should we throw more money at Wild Cobra?
Notice I'm addressing the individual and not the group.
Whose children are being sacrificed?
Certainly you're not arguing that generations of affluent, white children are harmed by policies that encourage achievement by the children of less affluent families.
If you were making that argument, it would be both factually inaccurate and ridiculously absurd.
Is your solution that we should just give up on the problem?
First off, you haven't made the case of formative years yet. You need to do that first before you start refering to it as if we had any idea what's skittering around in that weird sensorium of yours.
Bull . Society functions on that very basis. We give up something for the greater good every day. We follow laws that might take away from our day, but benefits others. In the context of quotas, or whatever the it is your whining about, it's not meant to be permanent. It's meant to address a problem for the greater good. Everyone benefits from an equitable playing field in the greater picture. You think too small.
Taxes accomplish this as well, and we all about them, but we pay them.
OK, stay ignorant.
Ok, stay obtuse.
Give us a solution that doesn't require anyone to give anything up then.
Hm. You said:
Yet, you know a half dozen black people personally, whom you talk with regularly, and not one of them tells their children that they can't make it.
Do they tell stories about how they've heard OTHER black parents who tell their children that it's hopeless? If so, I fail to hear where you're getting this information from.
I find it rather odd that you seem to believe a majority of blacks are willing to blame the culture and society for their problems, and yet of all of the half dozen blacks you associate with, none seem to do that. Neato.
Yes, odd indeed, LNG. We tend to call that bigoted.
Forming opinions based on unsubstantiated assumptions rather than facts is not bigoted, Manny -- you PC-bound simpleton.Yes, odd indeed, LNG. We tend to call that bigoted.
Can be bigoted. Still, I don't know how anyone would get through he day if all the expedient/provisional assumptions had to be vetted beforehand.
Dunno. I tend to doubt the connection between unexamined premises and racism is necessary. Racism is customary in addition to being ideological and rationalized. Might be a sufficient condition, tho.
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