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    Ok, we disagree on this. I'm cool with that.
    I am curious to know how you believe a person functions at all if the majority of their decisions are irrational.

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    You just assumed I did.

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    I don't hate social norms.
    I may have assumed incorrectly then but it sure seems as though that is the picture you were trying to paint.

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    You just assumed I did.
    See above. Its not like I pulled that assumption out of thin air.

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    I am curious to know how you believe a person functions at all if the majority of their decisions are irrational.
    I do believe that. I believe almost all of our decisions are irrational, and that we function just fine with a marginal level of rationality.

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    See above. Its not like I pulled that assumption out of thin air.
    Oh, I see. You got touchy about the word religion, so you contrived a hostile inference.

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    Oh you weren't using religion as a negative there? Its all my inference?

    Is so apologies. Its all on me.

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    Give us a solution that doesn't require anyone to give anything up then.
    I think WC professed that he would accept a system that merely requires quotas on interviews, and not actual job placements. (That said, I'm not even sure how arrifmative action works as the former or latter.)

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    I may have assumed incorrectly then but it sure seems as though that is the picture you were trying to paint.
    I was only pointing out social norms are anti-racist at this point. Your assumption I was somehow putting down those norms is totally threadbare.


    (Pointing out that anti-racism is an idol of the marketplace is not an indictment of anti-racism or the marketplace.)

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    I was only pointing out social norms are anti-racist at this point. Your assumption I was somehow putting down those norms is totally threadbare.


    (Pointing out that anti-racism is an idol of the marketplace is
    not an indictment of anti-racism or the marketplace.)
    What? Are you kidding me? Saying something is an idol is not a neutral statement WH. You know better. I refuse to believe that someone like you is so careless with words. I'd as soon believe WC will lead us to a more enlightened society.

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    Individually, we are not.
    Ah, the old "Lottery Paradox". Love it.

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    What? Are you kidding me? Saying something is an idol is not a neutral statement WH.
    Of course it's not neutral. It's qualified. If you don't like the qualification, feel free to criticize it.

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    I believe I did, but you can't make such a qualification and then act as though I reached my conclusions without any reason.

    Sorry, if assumed incorrectly that's fine but you don't get to sit there with a "who me" look on your face.

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    I do believe that. I believe almost all of our decisions are irrational, and that we function just fine with a marginal level of rationality.
    Irrational or Arational? (For instance, if I choose Mountain Dew over Coke, it's arational, ie. no rationality is behind it, except perhaps the rationality of which flavor I prefer.)

    If you did indeed mean irrational, irrational in what way? For instance, we call it irrational when someone doesn't save money for later years, but in a sense it's "rational" because those years are not promised, and you can't take it with you. I'm sure there are various other forms of irrationality that could be argued with rational as well.

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    I believe I did, but you can't make such a qualification and then act as though I reached my conclusions without any reason.
    You generalized from your own prejudice. You dislike religion (or the overtones of the word religion, or whatever). I do not.

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    Work beckons. I'll check in after midnight to reply to yr question, LnGrrrR.

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    You generalized from your own prejudice. You dislike religion (or the overtones of the word religion, or whatever). I do not.
    So then you were using that word in a positive sense? I asked you this above. You ignored it. I ask once again.

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    You generalized from your own prejudice. You dislike religion (or the overtones of the word religion, or whatever). I do not.
    I may be slightly biased on this front, but I don't believe that "idol" has very many positive connotations in the light that it was used. If you had said an "ideal" maybe, but "idol", not so much. It seemed to imply fetishistic, tribal worship.

    At least, it did to this reader. YMMV.

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    Work beckons. I'll check in after midnight to reply to yr question, LnGrrrR.
    Thank ya kindly, dear sir. I'll either be stark-raving delirious with glee (if the Bruins win) or greatly despondent (if they don't).

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    Go Bruins!

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    I may be slightly biased on this front, but I don't believe that "idol" has very many positive connotations in the light that it was used. If you had said an "ideal" maybe, but "idol", not so much. It seemed to imply fetishistic, tribal worship.

    At least, it did to this reader. YMMV.

    I definitely assume the usage of the word religion in that connotation is meant negatively. All WH has to do is clarify that he meant it in a positive light but I have never seen that used in a positive manner.

    WH the claim may be that this was based upon my feelings of religion but actually its based more off of common usage of the word.

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    It seemed to imply fetishistic, tribal worship.
    You say that like it's a bad thing.

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    You sir, are a true patriot. I tip my hat to you! Go Bruins, indeed!

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    You say that like it's a bad thing.
    Come on, now you're just toying with us.

    Edit: Being an atheist myself, I would like to think that society's norms changing to reflect anti-racist notions is more due to evolved rationality, rather than a sort of unthinking loyalty.

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    You say that like it's a bad thing.


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