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    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    Partisanship removes any possibility of consensus.

    Hence, the political forum.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Partisanship removes any possibility of consensus.

    Hence, the political forum.
    You mean partisanship as we've come to know it or in general? I think there is more consensus here than you'd think.

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    I have often seen the OP's question raised as an argument for the futility of this forum and its discussions, and I can't help wonder if consensus and/or conversion is really the point.

    It's doubtful that anything discussed in this format could sway me away from deeply held beliefs, for instance. And I know I'm certainly not arguing here with the intent to bring someone to my side. But that doesn't necessarily mean that this forum has failed. Or that it is ineffectual. Countless threads have made me more aware of issues I don't have the time/energy to follow closely, have provided new perspective into opinions and beliefs opposite my own, and have forced me to clarify my position on certain subjects through articulating my own point of view.

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    Plenty of times. I have changed my position on several issues after reading more facts and opinions. Can't speak for others exactly though

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    Most peoples political beliefs eventually drift bact to their parent's beliefs.....they could go through periods of time where they get more 'liberal' or 'cpnservative', drift to the other side, but eventually those beliefs drift back to deeply seated family beliefs...

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    Plenty of times. I have changed my position on several issues after reading more facts and opinions. Can't speak for others exactly though
    Yeah, I think it happens much more than people here admit...as far as a consensus on issues.....that would make for a pretty boring forum, right?

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    Cbf is a waffler though, he used to be a Utah jazz fan when he lived in LA

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    You mean partisanship as we've come to know it or in general? I think there is more consensus here than you'd think.
    Only because, at the moment, there are more liberals posting than conservatives.

    You dont have Yonivore, Clandestino, etc posting in here at all.

    There is no "other side" outside of DarrinS and WC. You have like-mindedness, for now, with the current crop of forum leaders.

    That will change when a Republican wins the Presidency, whether that be 2012 or 2016.

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    Anyway, my poor attempt at making a point made the point entirely missed.

    Partisanship, in any form, is the worst thing to happen to American politics. No good ever comes from conformity to ideas that are not one's own. Only on a temporary basis with long periods of consideration. Blind loyalty to a party, whether blue, red or green, is at the very heart of the political horn-locking that has paralyzed this country into inaction for almost my entire lifetime.

    Actually, for my entire lifetime. Cant speak for before that, not a history guru.

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