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This is kinda like comparing 2000 Shaq to 2006 Wade. They both were spectacular but Shaq was just flat out in another atmosphere. Same with Duncan.
C'mon BUMP
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This is kinda like comparing 2000 Shaq to 2006 Wade. They both were spectacular but Shaq was just flat out in another atmosphere. Same with Duncan.
C'mon BUMP
best way to put it
i know this will come as a shock to some, but this was a troll thread. Obviously 03 Duncan was better
This whole site was all over Dirk's nuts a week ago so i wanted to see how quickly people would revert back to trashing him by defending Duncan
DUNCAN NO QUESTION AT ALL!......... Dude was a ing nightmare on both ends of the floor.
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This pretty much sums it all up. Dirk carried his team on offensive, but had veteran guys like Kidd, Chandler, Stevenson, Terry, and Marion to help him along the way. Duncan dominated in every facet of the game with a rookie Manu who only played half the season, a sop re TP, an over the hill at the end of the road D-Rob. S-Jax was also a question mark coming into the season.
Mav fan. I understand you're happy. You should be. I hope the parade was bad ass. Please stop with the stupid questions.
2003 Duncan? I mean what the ? Of all years 2003??!?!?
Maybe a better comparison:
2007 Duncan and 2011 Dirk.
Oh and if Duncan doesn't play all those long ass seasons into June and stays home resting like Dirk did that whole time, Duncan doesn't have as much wear and tear on his body and a 2011 Duncan and 2011 Dirk are even.
Understanding that this isn't really a debate, I'll add that I've always thought that the thing that was most impressive about Tim's playoff run in 2003 was how diversely monsterous his numbers were from series to series.
In the First Round, when Phoenix was relentlessly doubling him, he played defense and rebounded and then passed effectively out of doubles. He didn't score much, but he did score efficiently. Against LA in the WCSF, he was much more of a scorer -- taking 8 more shots per game than the 12.2 FGA/gm he had against Phoenix -- while remaining an effective passer and rebounder.
I've thought for a long time that Tim's 2003 WCF was his best playoff series ever -- he scored often and efficiently, he rebounded like a beast, he averaged almost 6 assists per game and he blocked 3 shots per game. His worst game in the 2003 WCF was Game 6, when he scored 18, grabbed 11 rebounds, had 4 assists and 3 blocks. His best? Maybe the 40-15-7 he threw up in Game 1? or perhaps it was the 34-24-6-6 he had in Game 3.
In all, he had 4 games in which he went 20-20 and in each of those he had at least 6 assists.
He had two triple-doubles (Game 6 at Phoenix (15-20-10), and Game 6 against NJ (famously)).
He had 22 double-doubles (he missed in Game 1 against LA (8 rebounds) and Game 4 at LA (9 rebounds).
He had 18 games with at least 20 points, 10 games of 25+, and 6 games with 30+.
He had 6 games during that run with at least 20 rebounds and 14 games with at least 15 rebounds.
He had 13 games with at least 6 assists. He had 9 games with at least 4 blocks.
By series:
Round 1 v. PNX
42.7 mpg, 52% from field; 16.0 rpg (4.7 off; 11.3 def), 5.2 apg, 3.5 bpg, 18.7 ppg
Round 2 v. LAL
40.3 mpg, 53% from field, 11.8 rpg (2.8 off; 9.0 def), 4.8 apg, 1.3 bpg, 28.0 ppg
Round 3 v. DAL
43.3 mpg, 57% from field, 16.7 rpg (4.7 off; 12.0 def.), 5.8 apg, 3.0 bpg, 28.0 ppg
FINALS v. NJ
43.8 mpg, 50% from field, 17.0 rpg (3.8 off; 13.2 def.), 5.3 apg, 5.3 bpg, 24.2 ppg
God damn Tim was a ing monster in 2003. What's most impressive to me is his amazing rebounding numbers, his insane blocks (especially in the Finals, didn't he set the record at the time for most blocks in a Finals series?), but most of all, his assist numbers are amazing for a big man. The game will truly, truly be missing one of the most complete players the NBA has ever seen when Tim retires.
And somehow through that entire 2003 run just about every damn game I'd watch Tim cruise right along doing his thing and still have my jaw drop when they'd show his stat line in the fourth quarter. I'd been watching every second of the game and feel like an idiot for it. "Tim's got ___ points? When did that happen?" I know consistency was always Tim's calling card but the way his dominance just sort of blended all together not only from game to game but quarter to quarter, minute to minute blew me away. There's not any big killer 4th quarter takeovers that spring to mind immediately like a few from the other le runs. Tim just did every damn thing for 40 solid minutes every night. Get the Spurs off to a good start? 4 down. Need to get a hoop to stop the opponents run? 4 down. Time to ice the game? 4 down.
How's defending 2003 Duncan trashing Dirk in any way?
Defending 2011 Duncan? Yeah.
/thread
lol i forgot how y the "/thread" replies are
i could easily do teengks like dis
"let me know when Duncan scores 48 points on 12-15 shooting while making all 24 free throws
/thread"
and hopefully people will think I'm cool and winning the debate
averaging 10 points in the 4th quarter on a high shooting percentage
You're going to make a troll thread, and then get butt-hurt over the responses?
You're ting on everyone here.
2003 Duncan >>>> 2011 Dirk = 2008 Duncan > 2009 Duncan > 2010 Duncan > 2011 Duncan
Yep thats one game though, he did better scoring and a higher PCT for one game! How is that 03 Duncan to 11 Dirk? You could put that up and win a game debate, but all around game in the years you posted Tim got this. He did score less in the playoffs by about 2 pts, but he did everything else better that year. Tims finals was better as well.So Dirk has the 48 pt game which was higher than Tims that year and probably more pts in the 4th Quarter, he has those two while Tim has everything else they posted above as far as the stats. Tim all the way.
I TAKE UP ANY season of duncans besides the last 4 seasons over any season of dirk...
They have this topic over at inside hoops, but they have added hakeems 94 (i think) finals run into the argument.
I you not, but the majority rank Dirk first, followed by Hakeem with Duncan a very distant third. Huh?
ESPN article: Greatest Finals performances of all time:
3. Tim Duncan, San Antonio, 2003
The single most underrated Finals performance of all time, hands down, belongs to Duncan in 2003.
Relatively few viewers saw it because of the Spurs-Nets pairing, and because of the general consensus that the East was something of a minor league. But Duncan was unbelievable.
Despite going up against two top-notch defensive players in Kenyon Martin and Dikembe Mutombo, and despite lacking a superstar teammate to deflect attention (Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili were just getting their feet wet, while David Robinson was on his way out), Duncan completely dominated. His averages of 24.2 points, 17.0 boards and 5.3 assists were impressive enough, but what really sealed the deal was his defense.
Duncan averaged 5.3 blocks per game for the series, the most of any player since the merger, and was at his best in the clinching Game 6 as San Antonio rallied from an eight-point fourth-quarter deficit. He fell two blocks shy of a quadruple-double and forced the Nets' Martin into a 3-for-23 disaster from the floor. Overall, his 32.0 PER for the series is the second-best since the merger.
Hands down 2003 Duncan with no need for further debate
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